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« Reply #5670 on: August 05, 2022, 10:03:31 AM »
Trump likely to be criminally charged in DOJ election probe along with other former White House officials, Obama AG Holder says

- Former President Donald Trump “probably” will be indicted on criminal charges along with former White House officials as part of a Justice Department investigation of efforts to reverse the 2020 election results nationally, ex-Attorney General Eric Holder said.

- But Holder suggested Trump is more likely to first face possible criminal charges from a Georgia prosecutor investigating Trump and allies for attempts to undo President Joe Biden’s win there.

- “I expect you’re going to see the pace of this investigation or these investigations pick up,” Holder said.




Former President Donald Trump “probably” will be indicted on criminal charges along with officials in his White House as part of a Justice Department investigation of efforts to reverse the 2020 election results nationally, ex-Attorney General Eric Holder said in an interview Thursday.

But Holder suggested that before that happens, Trump is more likely to first face possible criminal charges from the Georgia state prosecutor who is investigating attempts by Trump and his allies to undo President Joe Biden’s win there in 2020.

Holder, who led the Justice Department during the Obama administration, made those predictions during an interview with the SiriusXM Urban View satellite radio show Joe Madison The Black Eagle.

Madison asked Holder whether he would seek to indict Trump if he still were attorney general.

Holder demurred, saying he did not have access to all the material that the Justice Department currently has regarding Trump.


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But he told Madison that, based on his experience as a federal prosecutor who filed public corruption cases against elected officials, as “more evidence is elicited, you will see people start to cut deals.”

″My guess is that by the end of this process, you’re going to see indictments involving high-level people in the White House, you’re going to see indictments against people outside the White House who were advising them with regard to the attempt to steal the election,” said Holder.

“And I think ultimately you’re probably going to see the president, former president of the United States indicted as well,” he said.

The Justice Department reportedly is presenting evidence and testimony before two federal grand juries in Washington, D.C., one of which is eyeing a plan by Trump’s lawyers and others to have so-called fake electors claim that the then-Republican incumbent won the election in their individual states.

The other grand jury is investigating events leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot, when a mob of Trump supporters interrupted for hours the confirmation of Biden’s Electoral College win by Congress.

Pat Cipollone, who served as Trump’s White House counsel, has been subpoenaed to appear before one of those grand juries, multiple news outlets reported Wednesday.

For weeks after the November 2020 popular election, Trump falsely claimed that he defeated Biden and argued his Democratic opponent’s Electoral College victory was based on widespread ballot fraud in several swing states.

The former president since leaving the White House has continued to dispute the 2020 election results and has said that the investigations into his conduct and that of his allies are politically motivated witch hunts.

Holder in his interview said the pace of the Justice Department investigation into election meddling is likely to proceed in the same way that a character in the Ernest Hemingway novel “The Sun Also Rises” answered when another character asked how he went bankrupt: “Gradually, then suddenly.”

“I expect you’re going to see the pace of this investigation or these investigations pick up,” Holder told Madison.

But Holder also said that he expected the Justice Department to “go dark” and not take public action in the case until after this fall’s midterm elections.

The department in a long-standing practice in the months leading up to elections does not tend to file criminal charges or issue statements that might influence the outcome of elections.

“You watch the Justice Department in 2023,” Holder said.

“But I think before that, I expect something coming of that prosecutor in Atlanta,” he added.

That Georgia prosecutor, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, is presenting evidence and testimony to a special grand jury empaneled to investigate possible criminal meddling in her state’s election by Trump and his surrogates.

That grand jury has issued subpoenas to a number of fake Trump electors, as well to the former president’s lawyers and to U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

“I think in terms of time, that is the more advanced” investigation, Holder said Thursday.

“The case is in some ways less complicated,” he said, noting that Trump is known to have phoned Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, the state’s top election official, on Jan. 2, 2021, and pressured Raffensperger to help find enough votes to overcome Biden’s margin of victory there.

“You have the former president on tape saying, ‘Find me 11,780 votes,’” Holder said.

“Now people argue: ‘What was his intent?’” Holder said, referring to questions about whether Trump had criminal intent in asking such a question.

“Really?” Holder said sarcastically. “Put that before a jury ... Regular people, looking at the evidence, I think, will get to what I think is an appropriate conclusion.”

“So my eyes are on Fulton County first. Look at the Justice Department in 2023,” Holder said.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/04/trump-and-white-house-officials-likely-to-be-criminally-charged-in-election-probe.html

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Revealed: Trump election PAC funneled $60K to Melania's fashion stylist for 'strategy'

According to a report from USA Today, a PAC affiliated with Donald Trump's attempt to allege election fraud in the 2020 presidential election paid out $60,000 to the fashion consultant for former first lady Melania Trump.

The report from USA Today's Erin Mansfield explains that fashion consultant Hervé Pierre Braillard received four payments starting April 7 and ended on June 24 for what was described as "strategy consulting" with no further explanation as to that means.

Explaining why donor money that was supposed to fund the legal battle over the 2020 election that the former president insists was stolen from him, Trump "Save America" spokesperson Taylor Budowich stated, "Mr. Pierre serves as a senior advisor to Save America, involved in event management and special projects."

The report continued, "The payments offer a window into one of the many ways Trump, who is not a candidate for any federal office, is allowed to use money in the PAC, which has raised more than $100 million since it was registered in November 2020."

According to Michael Beckel, of political reform group Issue One, the expenditure deserves federal scrutiny.

“If you are going to a political function and trying to buy a new dress or a new tuxedo, that’s typically something that the FEC would say campaign funds should not be used for,” Beckel explained.

He added, "So it really raises questions if leadership funds are being used to pay for something like a new dress or new clothing that campaign funds could not be used for legally."

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« Reply #5672 on: August 05, 2022, 06:45:50 PM »
Fox News mocked for ‘desperately’ trying to spin ‘blockbuster’ jobs report into attack on Biden

The propagandists at Fox News are trying to find ways to spin Friday's excellent jobs report and economic news into an attack on President Joe Biden and Democrats. It's not going well for them.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics released the July jobs numbers Friday morning as scheduled.

CNN called it a "massive jobs surprise." Even CNBC's conservative editor Rick Santelli, who sparked the Tea Party movement with an on-air rant, heralded the jobs report as "a whopper."

Analysts overall expected the report to find about 258,000 new jobs created, but it was more than double that, with 528,000 new jobs. Unemployment dropped slightly to 3.5%, which is far below the 5% mark economists used to use as a marker of "full employment."

Economists cheered the results, with even those often more pessimistic finding the jobs report excellent news. Overall, many made clear there is no recession, and predicted inflation will come under control as the Federal Reserve raises interest rates, and as the price of gas has dropped tremendously, with some stations now selling at under $3.00 a gallon.

Meanwhile, Fox News decided to use the White House's prediction that the jobs numbers would not be great against them.

The Daily Beast's media reporter Justin Baragona posted a screenshot of Fox News's chyron that blasts the White House for not getting the estimate right. A casual observer, say, in an airport, would likely assume the jobs report was bad and blame the Biden administration.

It reads: "WH Misses Forecast on Lower July Jobs Growth."

Media Matters' Eric Kleefeld notes how Fox News Business's Larry Kudlow, a former Trump top advisor, and former Trump advisor Kevin Hassett both predicted the jobs number would come in exactly the same as what the Biden White House predicted, and were preparing since Thursday for bad news:

Attorney Brad Moss, a frequent social media commenter, observed: "Fox News is desperately trying to spin this blockbuster jobs report against Biden. If Trump was in office, they'd be running celebration videos complete with champagne."

Jut after 8:30 AM ET when the report was released "Fox & Friends" host Brian Kilmeade immediately mocked President Joe Biden as they shared the numbers.

Fox News Business' Charles Payne was on set to discuss the report. Looking for the negative spin he announced that the jobs number was the best since March, adding the numbers had "been trending lower since March sequentially."

Begrudgingly admitting "it's a really good number," he pivoted to "participation" in the workforce. he called it "amazing that we have not gotten back up to the same level of participation" since before COVID.

But as CNBC reported: “private sector payrolls are now higher than the February 2020 level, just before the pandemic declaration.”

https://www.rawstory.com/fox-news-mocked-for-desperately-trying-to-spin-blockbuster-jobs-report-into-on-biden/

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Watch: Indiana Republican tells colleague that she'll have to carry fetus to term even if it has no chance of survival



A Republican state lawmaker in Indiana this week told a Democratic colleague that his proposed amendment to his state's abortion laws would force her to carry a nonviable fetus to term even if it had no chance of survival.

A video posted by Heartland Signal shows that Republican Indiana State Rep. J. Michael Davisson being grilled by Democratic State Rep. Carey Hamilton about a proposed amendment to make abortion illegal even in the case of lethal fetal anomalies.

"I'm thinking about situations all mothers might face," Hamilton said while addressing Davisson on the Indiana State House floor. "Say at 17 weeks I had an ultrasound and was told that the fetus is failing to thrive and has no chance of survival, with this amendment, is it true that I would have to carry that fetus to term?"

Davisson paused for a few seconds and asked Hamilton to rephrase her question.

Hamilton responded by more or less repeating her original question while emphasizing more strongly that the fetus in question had no chance of survival.

She then asked again, despite the fetus having no chance to survive, if the bill would force her to carry it to term.

"Yes," Davisson replied.

According to local news station WLFI, Davisson's amendment failed in the Republican-dominated Indiana state legislature by a count of 35 in favor to 65 against.

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IN state Rep. Engleman (R) introduces an amendment to eliminate rape and incest exceptions in the new anti-abortion bill. Rep. Fleming (D) asks if that would prevent a 5th grader (10-year-old) rape victim from getting abortion care.

Engelman sighs: "It... It does."


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IN state Rep. Davisson (R) argues for requiring forced birth of non-viable fetuses.

Asked what he would tell children of a mother going through pregnancy resulting in stillbirth: "[None] of us are guaranteed tomorrow. We must accept death as a consequence of life."


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‘It changes my view’: Bill Barr now thinks DOJ is ‘taking a hard look’ at Trump



Former Trump Attorney General Bill Barr has modified his views on the Department of Justice investigation into the efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

CBS News correspondent Catherine Herridge interviewed Barr after the DOJ subpoenaed former White House counsel Pat Cipollone and Patrick Philbin, his deputy.

Herridge asked, "do the new grand jury subpoenas suggest that the Justice Department is squarely focused on former President Trump?"

"I think it definitely is a significant event," Barr replied.

"It changes my view of what's been going on," he continued. "From my standpoint, it looked to me like the department was really focusing on the lower-level people. As you know, since the election they've been going after the people who went into the Capitol."

"And I didn't think they were paying that much attention to the higher-ups and were sort-of leaving it to the congressional committee," Barr explained. "But this suggests to me that they're taking a hard look at the group at the top, including the president and the people immediately around him who were involved in this."

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Hannity’s fall amid rise of The Five and Jesse Watters shows GOP moving on from Trump: analysis



The shifts in editorial focus and audience attention at Fox News may signal a shift in the direction of the far-right movement in America, according to a new analysis.

Daily Beast correspondent Justin Baragona examined the situation at Fox News under the headline, "How ‘Loyal Dog’ Sean Hannity Went From King of Fox News to Has-Been."

"During the Trump administration, Sean Hannity was on top of the world. With the ouster of his longtime Fox News colleague and nemesis Bill O’Reilly in April 2017 over sexual misconduct allegations, Hannity quickly rose from second fiddle to the most-watched host in cable news. And he stayed there for years," Baragona wrote. "But towards the end of Trump’s term, Tucker Carlson—who essentially replaced O’Reilly in primetime—supplanted Hannity as the top dog at Fox News. Conservative cable viewers seemed far more interested in Carlson’s brand of taking Trumpism’s far-right nationalism, fervent anti-immigrant rhetoric, and COVID trutherism and running with it over Hannity’s increasingly stale Trump boosterism (and insatiable Hillary Clinton obsession)."

Hannity was known as the "shadow chief of staff" during the Trump administration.

"Having already risen to a solid third place in Fox News viewership by the 2020 election, the late-afternoon panel show 'The Five' —featuring popular Fox News veterans Greg Gutfeld and Jesse Watters—eventually passed Hannity for second place in August 2021, and hasn’t looked back since. In fact, the culture war-driven gabfest has even overtaken 'Tucker Carlson Tonight' as the most-watched show in all of cable news. (Carlson’s show, however, regularly draws more viewers in the coveted 25-54 advertising demographic.)"

Watters was rewarded with the show "Jesse Watters Primetime" which quickly became one of the top five shows on cable news.

"Hannity’s show was able to claw its way to a third-place finish for the second quarter of the year, pulling in an average of 2.73 million total viewers to Watters’ 2.69 million, while beating Jesse Watters Primetime in the advertising demographic by nearly 50,000 viewers," The Beast reported. "But June and July, separately, told a different story. Watters once again edged out Hannity in total viewership in June while closing the gap in the 25-54 demographic. The following month, Watters expanded his lead in overall audience by more than 100,000 viewers and came within 13,000 of Hannity in the key advertising demographic."

Baragona also examined the shift in focus at Fox News.

"The sustained ascendancy of Carlson, Gutfeld, and Watters—more 'own the libs' culture warriors than card-carrying Trumpists—while Hannity, a member of Trump’s inner circle, continues to sink cannot be simply chalked up to a growing perception that the network is distancing itself from Trump’s cult of personality," Baragona wrote. "Instead, the most likely explanation comes from Hannity’s inability to evolve with the changing right-wing media landscape—one that has long moved into darker ideological terrain after decades of loyally defending and touting the Republican Party above all else."

For analysis, Bargona interviewed Matthew Sheffield, who was a right-wing media figure and founder of NewsBusters before growing disenchanted with the movement.

“The fundamental thing about Hannity is that he's not an ideas guy. He’s a cheerleader,” Sheffield said. “He is not a creative person. He just wants to have the same guests on all the time talking about the same things. And for the more angry, reactionary, Christian types, that’s just not enough for them anymore. They want more anger, more ambitiousness. And they certainly don’t want to hear what Lindsey Graham has to say.”

On Friday, Tammy Bruce guest hosted "Sean Hannity Tonight."

Read More Here: https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-loyal-dog-sean-hannity-went-from-king-of-fox-news-to-has-been

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Donnie the con artist grifter is always looking for new ways to scam his sucker followers out of their money. And these morons keep handing it over to him.

Trump now asking for donations from MAGA fans to finance his lawsuit against CNN



On Friday, The Daily Beast reported that former President Donald Trump is now asking supporters on his email list to chip in money to help him fight his lawsuit against CNN.

This comes in spite of the fact that the lawsuit, announced last week, has not yet actually materialized and Trump has not taken any formal steps to initiate legal action against the cable network.

"Instead of court documents being filed, Trump appears to be more preoccupied with begging followers to send in money to 'support' the so far non-existent legal action," reported Zachary Petrizzo. "A new fundraising message sent out from the ex-president on Friday said: 'I’m calling on my best and most dedicated supporters to add their names to stand with me in my impending LAWSUIT against Fake News CNN.' 'Add your name IMMEDIATELY to show your support for my upcoming lawsuit against Fake News CNN,' the email continued, linking to a donations page."

"It was one of two fundraising messages sent out," continued the report. "Trump touting a potential CNN lawsuit comes as the Republican National Committee has said they will stop paying the ex-president’s legal bills upon him declaring his candidacy for president."

The lawsuit, which Trump threatened in a cease-and-desist letter to CNN, is demanding that the network remove all uses of "Big Lie" and "lying" from articles about the former president's crusade to overturn the 2020 presidential election. There remains no evidence to support any of Trump's claims that the election was somehow stolen or rigged.

Commentators have broadly ridiculed Trump's threat to sue CNN, with Steve Chapman writing for the Chicago Tribune, "You don’t need to have passed the bar exam to know that no one at CNN will lose sleep over his demand that the network “publish a full and fair correction, apology, or retraction” of dozens of statements accusing him of a cynical campaign of deceit. Trump is more likely to win the Olympic decathlon than to prevail in this dispute."

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« Reply #5677 on: August 06, 2022, 05:31:17 AM »
Right wingers are once again drooling over the fascist leader of Hungary Viktor Orbán as they wamt to enforce the same fascist policies here in America. Banning abortion while forcing women to give birth even if it kills them and eliminating Social Security and Medicare is the main agenda for the GOP.
 
'No divorcing' the GOP from 'disgusting' racism and fascism after Orban's CPAC display: former party operative



On Friday's edition of MSNBC's "The Beat," Kurt Bardella — a former GOP operative and Breitbart staffer turned Democratic adviser — laid into Republicans at CPAC in Dallas for cheering on speakers openly promoting Christian nationalism and the erosion of democracy.

One of the key moments from that gathering was a speech delivered by Viktor Orbán, the strongman prime minister of Hungary.

"What is that disgusting display by someone like Viktor Orbán, on domestic U.S. soil, telling you about the GOP?" asked anchor Katie Phang.

"What you are seeing, Katie, is the Republican Party wrap their arms around autocratic white nationalist ideals and cementing that as the platform of the party going forward," said Bardella. "Make no mistake about it right now, there is no divorcing the Republican Party from racism. Every single candidate that is on the ballot with an R next to their name in November, you own this. Your refusal to speak out against it, your participation in it, the fact that you cater and pander to the audience at CPAC that is cheering on these very dangerous and disgusting ideals. You own this."

Bardella continued on, condemning Republican silence as complicity.

"It would not be hard for any member of the Republican Party to denounce what we're hearing right now," said Bardella. "Things that are repulsive, repugnant, have no place in the 21st century. Yet they're not going to do that. They're going to hide. They're going to embrace. They're going to high-five. They're going to cheer it on. Because to them, the white America that we're hearing these speakers talk about is exactly what they want to do to this country, they're not trying to hide it. They've basically taken off their hoods and exposed themselves for what they are."

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The forever coup: Trump’s Big Lie is the coin of the GOP realm in Arizona

This week’s primaries helped show something: The January 6 hearings may well not end the Big Lie. The Big Lie is more than Trump now, and it is more than a revisionist project about the 2020 election.

The Big Lie is now part of the culture wars, and as such it has become more diffused through our politics, more capable of enduring in myriad ways across American life. Any and all elections can now be called into question—from school board to president. Thiel-backed Senate hopeful Blake Masters, addressing questions around his own peddling of election lies summed it up by saying, “I think there’s always cheating, probably, in every election.”

His fellow Arizona election deniers — Kari Lake, Mark Finchem, and Abe Hamadeh — all have secured their nominations. Lake made waves by alleging she already had proof of fraud and tampering in the 48 hours before the primary vote, but has refused to provide any proof. She also emulated Trump by taking to the stage at her watch party at a moment when she still trailed in the vote and declaring, “We won this race, period.”

Lake is now the nominee, with all the worrying things that could portend, but her conduct in the final hours of the primary race highlight just how thoroughly embedded the logic of election denial has become. 

While Masters has taken extreme positions, the threat posed by Lake, Finchem, and Hamadeh is far more direct. If they successfully win their respective races for governor, secretary of state, and attorney general, then elections in newly swing-y Arizona would be at the mercy of a trio of Big Lie supporters. While such a trifecta is by no means guaranteed, this would be a dream scenario for the MAGA movements hardcore coup supporters in 2024.

Finchem, a self-identified member of the Oath Keepers, also offers a prominent example of the increasingly dangerous relationship between the modern GOP and extremist militias. The Bie Lie isn’t just fueling attempts at legal coups, it’s helping to propel groups that are entirely willing to engage in armed and violent actions to subvert democracy.

We live in the age of the supercharged conspiracy theory, capable of finding wider and wider audiences through new media platforms and capturing believers before they’re even fully aware of the nature of the content they are consuming.

But, perhaps more importantly, we live in the age of the fractured civic soul. Americans do not trust their institutions, and they do not trust one another. A host of politicians and activists, primarily on the populist right, have emerged to prey upon these vulnerabilities and move across the country like door-to-door salesmen for authoritarianism.

Concerns remain elsewhere. The Rust Belt states that helped deliver Donald Trump’s shock win in 2016 and were then critical to Biden’s 2020 victory have been particular hotbeds of Big Lie radicalism. In Pennsylvania, Doug Mastriano’s candidacy threatens to bring a firmly pro-coup politician into the governor’s mansion. In Michigan, party purges across state and local levels have elevated election deniers and alienated those who defend basic democratic accountability and transparency. Canvassers in Macomb, Saginaw, and Kalamazoo Counties, among others, have been pushed out to make room for Big Lie believers. In Michigan’s 3rd Congressional District, Republican Peter Meijer paid the ultimate price for his 2021 impeachment vote, falling to Trump-backed John Gibbs.

Across Lake Michigan, politics in Wisconsin is also turning into a stew of election paranoia and contempt. One stark example can be found in Elena Schneider’s examination of politics in Green Bay, where she noted that the city’s “nonpartisan city council races — traditionally quiet affairs that focus on taxes and roads — feature ads from a GOP super PAC questioning whether the city’s elections are legitimate…” We are no longer at a moment where the question is only whether Donald Trump will run in 2024 and attempt to manipulate or invalidate the results. We are at a point where even the most local races are vulnerable to conspiracy theorizing and attempted power grabs.

That local aspect is critical. It isn’t just in the prominent congressional, gubernatorial, and senatorial races that you can find the rot. Across America, officeholders and power-seekers in the most banal and seemingly minor contexts now plead conspiracy and theft in the face of basic democratic process. Sheriffs in states like Kansas, Michigan, and Wisconsin have taken it upon themselves to tout and even investigate election conspiracies. The deterioration of state Republican parties is clear, and so is the descent at the county level — perhaps best highlighted by the refusal of commissioners in Otero County, N.M., to certify their results of the state’s Republican primary.

Yes, many of the people above were propelled to prominence by Trump and the Trump movement — Kari Lake was, after all, once a proud Obama-voting moderate. And conspiratorial fears about Dominion Voting Systems continue to come up as a point of contention even in cases like Otero County. But the genie is well out of the bottle at this point.

Make America Great Again is so 2016, and Keep America Great is so 2020. Make America Great Again, Again is the new credo, and its redundancy is a function of its eternal quality. It’s the language of the Lost Cause, a nation having risen, been thwarted, and risen again, only to fall again to the overwhelming power of a corrupt elite and its power centers of finance and cultural production.

The term “forever war” has been popularized to describe the difficult, often flailing foreign military entanglements in which the United States poured itself during the Global War on Terror. These quagmires, the common sense has gone, led to decades of civic rot, misallocated energy, and declining reputation prestige for the country. Now, America could well be poised to endure a prolonged domestic quagmire, marked by anger, distrust, and a fundamentally anti-democratic approach to the election process.

https://www.azmirror.com/2022/08/05/the-forever-coup-trumps-big-lie-is-the-coin-of-the-gop-realm-in-arizona/

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Alex Jones' lawsuit verdict is bad news for the conspiracy-spewing hosts on Fox: legal expert



According to JoAnne Sweeny, professor of law at the University of Louisville’s Louis D. Brandeis School of Law, the massive monetary damages awarded to the parents who lost children at Sandy Hook Elementary in 2012 as part of a civil suit filed against Infowars founder Alex Jones should serve as a warning to several hosts on the Fox News network.

On Friday a jury added $45.2 million in punitive damages to the $4.1 million already awarded to parents Neil Heslin and Scarlett Lewis for the trauma Jones inflicted upon them by saying the school masacre was faked.

As Sweeny points out, the atmosphere for suing over blatant lies and accusations has changed and those who traffic in disinformation have been put on notice.

According to the legal expert, "This is not only a large blow to Jones, who has already filed for bankruptcy, but to other conspiracy-theory fomenters who fill their audiences’ heads with stories of the deep state, a stolen election and a child-sex ring in the basement of a pizza restaurant," with Sweeny adding, "Jones styles himself as a media broadcaster, and the media has historically been given a lot of latitude in publishing statements that are even partially false. That latitude has helped modern partisan news sites like Newsmax and Breitbart to use their platforms to spread outlandish theories with impunity."

Among those who are already looking at pricey legal repercussions is Fox News in a defamation suit brought by Dominion Voting Systems.

"Fox News is currently being sued for $1.6 billion by Dominion Voting Systems for Fox News’ claim that Dominion voting machines helped to rig the 2020 presidential election. The verdict against Jones should serve as a warning to the network and all the other conspiracy-peddlers out there. Repeating nonsense theories from 4chan or Reddit may not be protected free speech even if you attempt to disguise it as 'questioning known liars in the media," she wrote.

"The size of the verdict validates the strategy of going after conspiracy theorists on grounds of defamation. That’s significant because, though it has been argued that some of Jones’ activity crosses the line into outright criminal incitement, it’s much harder to make a case on that score," she added.

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