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Former Trump official: Donald didn't want to look 'like a loser' — and it put the nation in crisis



On Monday's edition of MSNBC's "Deadline: White House," former national security official Miles Taylor outlined how former President Donald Trump's election lies undermined the institutional guardrails of American democracy.

A key point, Taylor told anchor Nicolle Wallace, is that Trump knew what he was saying was false — and continued to go ahead pushing it.

"I made the mistake, Nicolle, of saying publicly, Trump's crazy, his advisors know it, but don't worry, there are people around him who are aware of it," said Taylor, referring to his anonymous 2018 op-ed in The New York Times.

"That was wrong. The guardrails of democracy weren't strong. Trump systematically dismantled them and the folks who were on at the very end, they already knew that. They knew that the rational points they would make to him would not be accepted, because Trump's tactic is to latch on, as you said, Nicolle, to the one person in the room who reflects his views and discard the others. He is the king of cognitive dissonance. Those people knew that."

"What they should have done is come out sooner and made that clear once they knew it and we have grand examples of that in the post-election period," said Taylor. "My good friend who you have had on this program many times, Chris Krebs, was the one we appointed to lead election security. Chris came out publicly, he was the one person most qualified in the entire federal government to say whether the election was secure or not, he went out and said it, Trump fired him, but Trump knew years before the 2020 election that this election would be secure because we briefed him on it."

Taylor emphasized this point, making clear that Trump had intelligence that debunked all of his election conspiracy theories — and disregarded all of it.

"I was there when we told him we were putting in place the preparations to make 2018 and 2020 the two most secure elections in American history," said Taylor. "What did he do? He conveniently forgot that information and started to seize the narrative that it might be stolen from him so he could perpetuate this fraud on the American people and so that he wouldn't look like a loser. That's the one thing he cares most about, it's not upholding his constitutional oath, but trying to not look like a loser, and as a result, we're suffering the corrosion of our democratic institutions."

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Ron Watkins files an ethics complaint against Wendy Rogers, alleging she put his life in danger



Ron Watkins, the man purported to be an architect of the QAnon conspiracy theory, filed an ethics complaint against Republican state Sen. Wendy Rogers for a post she made about him on social media.

Watkins’ complaint stems from a February post by Rogers on Telegram, an encrypted messaging app favored by conservatives, in which she asked the “Groyper army” to “hit” Watkins.

Rogers was asking her fans and allies in the “groyper army” to go after the QAnon conspiracy theorist turned Congressional candidate because he had alleged Rogers, a Flagstaff Republican who has built her political brand on spreading lies about the 2020 election, was involved in some sort of “backroom deal” that was preventing some equipment from being examined for alleged election fraud. There is no evidence of such a backroom deal.

The self-styled online “army” that Rogers sought to rally to her aid is a collection of white nationalists who favor online trolling tactics. Their goals broadly include normalizing their extreme and racist views by aligning them with Christianity and so-called “traditional” values.

“I wish to submit a formal ethics complaint and ask that you commence an ethics investigation into Senator Wendy Rogers to determine whether she is fit for service to the people of Arizona due to a pattern of behavior that is unbecoming of a Senator,” Watkins wrote in an email to Ethics Committee Chairwoman Sine Kerr that was also sent to the other 29 senators. “I have been included in her online attacks and will list the details here, along with a history of actions that call into question her ability to faithfully execute her duties in a way that brings honor to the State of Arizona.”

Watkins initially filed the complaint as an email, not as a signed and notarized letter as required by the rules of the Senate Ethics Committee. He has since submitted a complaint that follows those guidelines, he told the Arizona Mirror.

Watkins’ complaint alleges that, in trying to mobilize the “groyper army,” Rogers put his life in danger because of his Asian-American heritage and because “someone in this group would interpret this post to mean a ‘hit’ on my life.”

The complaint also mentions Rogers’ other ethics complaints that have been brought against her including her comments about the Buffalo shooting, a former staffer she allegedly mistreated, her censure and her antisemitic social media posts.

Although he said in the complaint that he was fearful of the groypers, Watkins has repeatedly associated with prominent Arizona groypers. For instance, Kyle Clifton, who has promoted white nationalist Nick Fuentes as well as used the Neo-Nazi term “blood and soil” in Instagram posts, has posed alongside Watkins for photos.

Clifton, along with anti-LGBTQ activist Ethan Schmidt, both joined Watkins to file a frivolous lawsuit against Gov. Doug Ducey for his “failure to protect the border.” They were joined by a woman who believes AIDS is a hoax and the Earth is flat.

Watkins was also interviewed by groyper Greyson Arnold, who has used his social media pages to post memes lauding Nazis as the “pure race” and lament the American victory in World War II. He also called Adolf Hitler a “complicated historical figure,” and was present at the U.S. Capitol insurrection on January 6.

Watkins has boosted the Telegram accounts of both Arnold and Clifton. Before all three were banned from Twitter, he also boosted their Twitter accounts.

Before QAnon, many came to associate Watkins with an online image board called 8chan, which was later renamed 8kun. Watkins didn’t create the site — its founder was Fredrick Brennan, who would later cut ties with the website — but he became its administrator after his father, Jim Watkins, purchased it.

The site has become a hotbed for hosting extremist and illicit content. It has hosted white supremacist mass shooters have used it as a platform to spread their manifestos. 

The Christchurch shooter in New Zealand said that he frequented the 4chan and 8chan message boards where far-right and white supremacist rhetoric was prevalent, and directly linked to other real-life hate crimes. The website also promoted antisemitism, at one point creating a cryptocurrency for users to boost their posts with a program they called “King of the Shekel.”

Watkins did not respond to questions about his interactions with Arizona groypers. Rogers did not respond to a request for comment about the complaint by Watkins.

Six days prior to Watkins filing his complaint, Rogers and Rep. Mark Finchem both endorsed Watkins’ opponent, Eli Crane, in the primary election.

https://www.azmirror.com/2022/06/13/ron-watkins-files-an-ethics-complaint-against-wendy-rogers-alleging-she-put-his-life-in-danger/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5346 on: June 14, 2022, 12:34:55 PM »
Republicans sure don't "back the blue". White supremacists and neo Nazis are Trump's base and they vote Republican.

Idaho cops inundated with death threats after bagging white supremacist Patriot Front members: report



On Monday, The Daily Beast reported that the police department in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho is being bombarded with angry messages — including death threats — after a high profile mass arrest of the members of the white supremacist group Patriot Front.

The arrests took place over the weekend, after 31 men were caught piled into a rented truck, on their way to a local Pride event where they allegedly were intending to cause a riot. The arrested white supremacists came from at least 11 states around the country, and included 23-year-old Thomas Ryan Rousseau of Grapevine, Texas, believed to be the group's leader.

"Police Chief Lee White said Monday the department had received 149 phone calls since the arrests, some of which have included death threats," reported Alice Tecotzky. "About half of the calls were complimentary, White told reporters, 'and the other 50 percent — who are completely anonymous, who want nothing more than to scream and yell at us and use some really choice words — offer death threats against myself and other members of the police department.' Some callers have threatened to publish officers’ personal information, such as their phone numbers or addressed, online."

According to Nick Martin of the independent hate group tracker The Informant, white supremacist activists are already zeroing on on the Coeur d'Alene police department as a target after the arrests took place.

"Neo-Nazis on other social media platforms have started doxxing members of law enforcement in Coeur d'Alene. Names, home addresses, phone numbers and photos are being circulated," wrote Martin. "One of the members of the Coeur d'Alene Police Department is being described by neo-Nazis as an 'Anti-American and Pedophile Apologist' because the arrests prevented the Patriot Front members from allegedly planning to disrupt a Pride event."

Coeur d'Alene, a town in the Idaho panhandle near Spokan e, Washington, is part of a region that has become a notorious hotbed for right-wing paramilitary extremists.

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Trump supporter Joshua Macias, arrested with guns in Philly during 2020 vote count, faces jail after new information emerges about meeting with Proud Boys



PHILADELPHIA — Joshua Macias can’t seem to stay out of trouble.

In November 2020, Macias, the co-founder of Vets for Trump, was arrested after he and a security guard with a history of unhinged internet postings drove from Virginia to Philadelphia with guns and ammunition, apparently in response to conspiracy theories about a rigged presidential election.

The pair, who traveled in a Hummer with QAnon stickers on it, were arrested near the Philadelphia Convention Center, where votes were being tallied. Police recovered handguns, an AR-15-style rifle, 160 rounds of ammo, a lock-picking kit and a samurai sword.

Investigators later found a text message referring to a plan to raid “a truckload of fake ballots,” prosecutors have said, and Macias was seen on video just before his arrest referring to “ballot stuffers” in “back rooms.”

Macias, 43, and alleged conspirator Antonio LaMotta, 63, await trial on those weapons- and election-related charges.

But Macias, a vocal supporter of the “Stop the Steal” movement that was fueled by then-President Donald Trump’s lies about widespread voting irregularities, has repeatedly been in danger of violating his bail conditions, due to his social media and political activity, Philadelphia prosecutors have argued in court — so far unsuccessfully.

Now, there is additional evidence.

Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner’s office has filed a motion seeking to have Macias held in contempt of court, due to new information that has surfaced about Jan. 6, 2021. That includes recent federal indictments, and documentary footage showing Macias meeting with Enrique Tarrio, the then-leader of the Proud Boys, in an underground parking garage the evening before the Capitol siege.

Tarrio and other members of the Proud Boys — including Zach Rehl, leader of the Philadelphia chapter of the far-right group — are facing seditious conspiracy charges stemming from the riot.

Also in attendance at the meeting with Macias and Tarrio: Stewart Rhodes, head of the Oath Keepers militant group. He, too, has been charged with sedition.

At a news conference Monday, Krasner called the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers the “tip of the spear” in the riot, and said it was significant that they chose to meet secretly with Macias, whom he described as “their confidante.”

“We need to radically reconsider whether Joshua Macias is a midsize fish or a shark. I say he is a shark,” Krasner said. “He has proven how dangerous he can be ... This is a startling revelation.”

Macias has not been charged in connection with the insurrection, but he was livestreaming from outside the Capitol, describing then-Vice President Mike Pence as “a Benedict Arnold” and saying “the domestic enemies are here,” as he pointed at the building.

Macias’ attorney, William Brennan, had no comment Monday. He has previously argued in court that prosecutors were attempting to criminalize legitimate political activity.

“He certainly is not on the same side politically as the district attorney, but to charge him criminally for exercising his right of free assembly and right of free speech, that’s a very dangerous thing,” Brennan said in January 2021 after a court hearing for Macias.

As for the original charges in November 2020 in Philadelphia, Krasner has argued that it should be treated as a “mass shooting that was narrowly averted.” Macias and LaMotta maintain their innocence.

The day after their arrest, Vladimir Lemets, executive director of Vets for Trump, told The Philadelphia Inquirer that he was puzzled by the case. He described Macias and LaMotta as “nonhostile guys” who had driven to Philadelphia only to monitor how the ballots were being counted.

“They just went up there to see if they could be of any assistance,” Lemets said, “and scope out what’s happening.”

But Lisa Deeley, chairwoman of the Philadelphia City Commissioners, which oversees elections in the city, said she believes police thwarted a mass shooting by intercepting Macias and LaMotta as the votes were being counted. She joined Krasner on Monday and questioned whether the defendants had planned to use the lock-picking kit to enter the Convention Center through a back entrance.

“I and my staff, we know what Macias and LaMotta were attempting to do that night,” Deeley said. “We refer to them as, ‘Those people who tried to kill us.’ How are these people still on the street?”

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5348 on: June 14, 2022, 01:32:24 PM »
Criminal Donald got busted during the second day of hearings as it was revealed he scammed his gullible MAGA followers out of $250 million dollars. Donnie told them to donate to his "Election Defense Fund" that was supposed to fight "voter fraud". Well, we all know there was no "election fraud" but it was revealed during the hearing that he never even set up this "Election Defense Fund". That is clear fraud and is considered wire fraud and if convicted Donnie will get the 20 years behind bars as it's the maximum penalty.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-fundraising-scam-jan-6-hearing-1367359/

And he's still at it trying to steal more money from gullible MAGA suckers. Maybe we will see the 8X IMPACT tomorrow.

Look how fake this donation scam is. He wants you to "prove your loyalty" by donating money. What a joke.     


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« Reply #5349 on: June 14, 2022, 08:35:52 PM »
'Go back to your office': New report details furious DOJ blow-up in front of Trump days before Jan. 6
https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-2657506695/

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Trump’s grifting isn’t new -- ‘conservative elites’ have been ripping off the base since 1964: historian
https://www.rawstory.com/trumps-grifting-isnt-new-conservative-elites-have-been-ripping-off-the-base-since-1964-historian/

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New photos show the pained expressions of Trump's inner circle on election night as they realized they lost



A series of photos taken on election night, 2020, show members of former President Donald Trump's family and campaign team looking distressed as it became more and more apparent that Joe Biden was going to be the winner, ABC News reports.

"The photos, taken by a White House photographer and published exclusively in the book, 'Betrayal: The Final Act of the Trump Show,' are a visual representation of the testimony of senior Trump advisers who told the House Jan. 6 committee that they did not believe Donald Trump should declare victory on election night," ABC's report stated.

The photos were taken in the Map Room of the White House.

"These photos — which were published exclusively in 'Betrayal' — show the scene at the White House on election night. Look at the faces — these people did not think they were winning," tweeted ABC News reporter and author Jonathan Karl.





A source who is shown in at least one of the photos tells ABC News they were taken as the campaign's analysts became concerned Trump could lose after initially being more confident of a win.

The photos show chief of staff Mark Meadows, campaign manager Bill Stepien, senior strategist Jason Miller, Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel and White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany.

Also shown are several Trump family members, including Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump and Lara Trump.

https://twitter.com/jonkarl/status/1536669155805609985