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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4448 on: December 03, 2021, 02:18:40 PM »
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Feds could release 'alternative' Mueller report soon
"Primary processing" of compendium mentioned in Mueller aide's book should be complete next month, court filing says.


An unpublished investigative compilation sometimes referred to as the "Alternative Mueller Report" has been located in Justice Department files and could be released soon, according to a letter filed in federal court Thursday.

A top deputy to Special Counsel Robert Mueller, Andrew Weissmann, revealed in a book he published last year that the team he headed prepared a summary of all its work — apparently including details not contained in the final report made public in 2019.

"At least for posterity, I had all the [team] members ... write up an internal report memorializing everything we found, our conclusions, and the limitations on the investigation, and provided it to the other team leaders as well as had it maintained in our files," wrote Weissmann in "Where Law Ends: Inside the Mueller Investigation."

The reference prompted the New York Times to submit a Freedom of Information Act request for the document in January and to follow up in July with a lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Manhattan.

Lawyers from the U.S. Attorney's Office in Manhattan told Judge Katherine Polk Failla in a letter Thursday that officials have figured out what document Weissmann was alluding to and have begun reviewing it for possible release.

"Since Plaintiff filed its complaint, Defendant has located and begun processing this record and intends to release all non-exempt portions to Plaintiff once processing is complete," Assistant U.S. Attorney Jennifer Jude wrote. "Defendant estimates that primary processing of the record will be complete by the end of January 2022 at which time Defendant expects to send the record to several other DOJ components for consultation."

Jude did not provide an estimate of how long those consultations could take, but proposed updating the court by mid-February.

The pledge to process the so-called alternative Mueller report is no guarantee that what's released will contain significant new revelations. The Justice Department can use a variety of exemptions to the Freedom of Information Act to shield parts of the document from disclosure, including by deeming it attorney work-product or part of an internal deliberative process. Current DOJ leaders could waive those exemptions, but releasing other contents such as grand jury information could be more difficult due to legal restrictions.

The group Weissmann supervised in the special counsel's office was called "Team M" after its primary target — former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort. The team more directly focused on the ties between Russia and former President Donald Trump was known as "Team R."

It's unclear whether investigative teams other than Weissmann's also prepared compilations that were not contained in Mueller's final report.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/02/mueller-report-alternative-release-523703

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4448 on: December 03, 2021, 02:18:40 PM »


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4449 on: December 04, 2021, 08:09:46 AM »
So much for the "Liberal Media" that right wingers keep lying about. Like I've said before many times, there is no such thing as a "Liberal Media". Most of the media is owned by right wing billionaires and the MSM only now exists for ratings and profit.

Trump-Biden coverage data shows reporters are ‘accessories to the murder of democracy’:



President Joe Biden's press coverage has been as negative as — and sometimes more negative than — former president Donald Trump's, according to a new data-based analysis.

Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank reports that the analysis, covering more than 200,000 articles from 65 news websites, rated the coverage Biden received in the first 11 months of 2021 versus the coverage President Donald Trump got in the first 11 months of 2020.

"The findings ... confirmed my fear: My colleagues in the media are serving as accessories to the murder of democracy," Milbank writes. "After a honeymoon of slightly positive coverage in the first three months of the year, Biden’s press for the past four months has been as bad as — and for a time worse than — the coverage Trump received for the same four months of 2020."

Milbank suggests the results are alarming given that among other things, Trump presided over the world's worst response to COVID-19, embraced violent white supremacists, and refused to accept the results of a free and fair election, sparking the Capitol insurrection.

"We need a skeptical, independent press. But how about being partisans for democracy?" Milbank writes. "The country is in an existential struggle between self-governance and an authoritarian alternative. And we in the news media, collectively, have given equal, if not slightly more favorable, treatment to the authoritarians. ... Too many journalists are caught in a mindless neutrality between democracy and its saboteurs, between fact and fiction. It’s time to take a stand."

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/03/biden-media-coverage-worse-trump-favorable/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4450 on: December 04, 2021, 02:09:05 PM »
MAGA is a violent domestic terrorist cult and I can't understand how anybody could support what they are calling for. And then you have psycho anti American traitor Michael Flynn leading the way with his Qanon religious cult. Hard to believe how far America has fallen in the last 5 years due to Trump and his psychos.   

MAGA conspiracy theorist calls for mass hangings of US senators: 'The gallows are getting wider'



On Friday, far-right activist Joe Oltmann called for the mass hanging of U.S. senators who, in his view, are "traitors" to the country — including Republicans who voted to avert a government shutdown this week.

"There's your list of 19 traitors to the American People, along with all the other traitors to the American people," said Oltmann on the Conservative Daily podcast. "I want people to go out there and get some wood. The gallows are getting wider and longer. We should be able to build gallows all the way from Washington, D.C. to California."

Oltmann, based in Colorado, is the leader of FEC United, a right-wing group that has its own militia. He has frequently peddled in violent and extremist rhetoric, asserting that he "sees a war coming."

READ MORE: 'I see a war coming,' says militia leader with Colorado GOP ties

He is also a purveyor of conspiracy theories about the 2020 presidential election, and claimed in an email with embattled pro-Trump lawyer Sidney Powell that "several" Colorado clerks loyal to Trump have "infiltrated" voting machines in the state to try to confirm that the election was stolen.

He is currently being sued by a former worker of Dominion Voting Systems, a common target of far-right conspiracy theories, whom he claimed was on an "Antifa conference call" promising that the voting machines would not allow Trump to win.

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https://www.rawstory.com/joe-oltmann/


A former Trump aide is trying to build a violent right-wing Christian takeover of the US



Michael Flynn is always in the news for the worst reasons.

Today, it’s because of the former Trump advisor’s feud with Lin Wood and the leaking of text messages and audio recording during which he calls QAnon “total nonsense” as well as a CIA psy-op. Last time, he was calling for a single religion in the United States. Time before that, QAnon members accused him of being a Satanist for a sermon at a church drawing from a former New Age apocalyptic leader.

Next time, it may be for something worse. In any case, everything Flynn has been doing suggests that QAnon or not, his audience, his rhetoric and his goals are far more concrete and far more sinister than the mocking media coverage suggests. Let’s start in September.

On September 17, Flynn was at the “Opening the Heavens” Conference at the Lord of Hosts Church in Omaha, Nebraska. That event claimed to be “an annual, multi-day event where the prophetic heart of God and the manifestation of His supernatural power are demonstrated to those in attendance and those viewing online around the world!”

Flynn spoke alongside a number of “prophetic” pastors, including Gene Bailey, executive director of Kenneth Copeland ministries, whose spiritual warfare preaching got the heavy-metal treatment last year.

Flynn’s speech made news due to QAnon’s reaction to it. It was said to be Satanic, ironic given QAnon’s resemblance to the Satanic Panic of the 1980s. Flynn’s speech resembled a 1984 sermon by Elizabeth Clare Prophet, founder of the Church Universal and Triumphant, a New Age apocalyptic group best known for their move to bunkers in Montana to await a prophesied nuclear apocalypse in 1990. Not only was it a failed doomsday cult, but it was a theosophic movement, something associated with Lucifer by its 18th-century founder.Flynn said he felt called to St. Michael, the archangel and his namesake. While the link between Prophet and Flynn is interesting, the text of Flynn’s “Archangel Prayer” is all by itself not so great:

We are your instrument
Of those sevenfold rays
And all your archangels, all of them
We will not retreat, we will not retreat
We will stand our ground
We will not fear to speak
We will be the instrument of your will
Whatever it is
In your name, and in the names of your legions
We are freeborn, and shall remain freeborn
And we shall not be enslaved by any foe
Within or without
So help me God.


"Seven rays” is a concept used in theosophy and in the Summit Lighthouse. Prophet’s prayer to Archangel Michael, which people have compared Flynn’s sermon, is not only part of the theosophic movement, but an aggressively anti-Communist talk, ending:

Archangel Michael, Stand with me!
Save my child!
Save my household!
Save my nation and bind those Communist hordes!


Others can analyze the I AM movement and its issues, but the use of militant religious language and the comparison to an aggressively apocalyptic, anti-Communist doomsday cult is bad enough.

Then in early November, Flynn and Wood had a series of exchanges -- people have focused on the audio recording of Flynn calling QAnon a CIA disinfo operation — but more worrying was the fact that he told Wood, on November 3, to read an article proving QAnon is a fraud.

Why more worrying? Because it was written by Hal Turner, a neo-Nazi radio host who’s promoted various QAnon conspiracies and served time for threatening elected officials -- he advocated murder repeatedly. The article is incredibly scary. It included this passage:

The Trump Anon believers want SOMEBODY ELSE to do it for them. Well, I’ve said this before and I will say it again now: Nobody is coming to save them/us. Nobody is coming to save the country. If you want something done, you gotta do it yourself. And until someone (but not me) decides that it is finally time to throw away all the comforts of this life, and brutally slaughter the people who are doing all these things, (and by “slaughter” I mean exactly that) then all these things will continue, unabated, to the destruction of our country and our oh-so-comfy lives.

This is standard Turner fare -- to preserve white nationalist power, people have to murder others, including elected officials -- but to have someone with Flynn’s background and his elite status within QAnon conspiracy and other movements promoting it is infinitely more terrifying than the entertainment value of seeing him bashing QAnon.

A week later Flynn and Wood were in Springfield, Missouri, at a “Preserving America” event billed as “Come and listen to America’s tier-1 patriot speakers and learn about preserving America under the Constitution.” Outside of the Springfield News-Leader, it garnered little press -- but one local sheriff attending claimed he had, “A great conversation with General Flynn. He wanted me to know the American Sheriff is the last line of defense for our free

Flynn has spoken with Richard Mack for the “Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association” podcast, an anti-government extremist group that works to recruit sheriffs into the “patriot” militia movement. The comment should be taken in that light.

Then there is Flynn’s ongoing “Reawaken America” tour, the most recent news items before the Wood blowup. On November 13, the tour was at the Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, John Hagee’s church.

Hagee is an apocalypse minded Christian Zionist and his son and executive pastor of the church, Matt, was on stage for the event. The “Reawaken America Tour,” a QAnon speaking tour, has numerous pastors presenting -– Dave Scarlett, Mark Burns, Phil Hotsenpiller, Leon Benjamin, Greg Locke, Jackson Lahmeyer, Brian Gibson among them. All have pushed the Big Lie and Christian Nationalism.

On stage, Flynn said, “if we are going to have one nation under God, which we must, we have to have one religion. One nation under God, and one religion under God.” The clip got widespread media play, but it is much more important in that broader context. “Reawaken America” has events in Dallas in December at Elevate Life Church in Frisco, where Pastor Keith Craft runs men-only “Warrior Nights,” dresses in militant garb, and mocks mask-wearing and the government.

In January, they’ll be at Dream City Church in Phoenix, which had hosted a Trump rally in 2020 and had been sent a cease-and-desist about promoting a fraudulent air filter system that June.

In February, they’ll be at Trinity Gospel Temple in Canton, Ohio, where Pastor Dave Lombardi tweeted out on November 3: “‘King Cyrus’ will prevail! Christian principles will prevail!,” and “the ‘Walls of Jericho’ will fall tonight! The Gospel message will prevail! The March continues!”

Both ideas have violent overtones — the fall of the walls of Jericho is followed by the massacre of all inhabitants. “King Cyrus,” a reference here to Donald Trump, destroyed the empire of the Babylonians.

These events are linking congregations nationwide in a specific project -- to build an ultranationalist Christian right to take control of America.

Flynn’s fall events show it is not as simple as whether or not he’s a grifter who pretends to believe in QAnon. He is. He’s a fraud. He’s corrupt. And we already knew this. But he’s also a corrupt fanatic, who believes in overthrowing the government and imposing a theocracy. He certainly seems comfortable reading and promoting neo-Nazi articles advocating the literal slaughter of enemies while doing so.

Stop laughing at Michael Flynn.

He’s dangerous.

Driving him out of QAnon is great, but the other groups he’s engaged with, the other ideologies he’s a part of, are no laughing matter.

https://www.rawstory.com/a-former-trump-aide-is-trying-to-build-a-violent-ultranationalist-right-wing-christian-takeover-of-the-us/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4451 on: December 05, 2021, 02:36:00 AM »
These White Nationalist Nazis that Donald Trump supports wants to take over Americs with fascism like they did in Germany. They call themselves "Patriot Front" but there's nothing patriotic about these scumbags. 

WATCH: Hundreds of white nationalists descend on Capitol in unannounced march



Hundreds of people from the white nationalist hate group Patriot Front reportedly marched through Washington to the Capitol on Saturday.

Videos posted online show members of the group marching in formation on the National Mall, wearing masks and uniforms and carrying shields and American flags.

In another video, a member of the Patriot Front is shown in the back of a box truck on his way to Washington.

"There is a caravan of box trucks heading to Washington, D.C., where Patriot Front is going to be marching, demonstrating, and giving some speeches from Thomas Rousseau," the man says, referring to the group's leader, before the other passengers in the truck shout, "Reclaim America!"

In another video, the same Patriot Front member is shown on foot in Washington. "We are headed to the Capitol for Thomas to give his speech. We are completely surrounded by an army of police and tons of spectators that are enjoying the show," the man says.

In another video, Rousseau is shown marching in front of a banner saying, "Victory or Death."

Rousseau says: "Our demonstrations are an exhibition of our unified capability to organize, to show our strength, not as brawlers or public nuisances, but as men capable of illustrating a message and seeking an America that more closely resembles the interests of its true people."

According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Patriot Front "is a white nationalist hate group that formed in the aftermath of the deadly 'Unite the Right' rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, of August 12, 2017."

"The organization broke off from Vanguard America (VA), a neo-Nazi group that participated in the chaotic demonstration," according to SPLC. "PF’s founder, Thomas Rousseau, led VA members during 'Unite the Right,' including James Alex Fields, Jr., the young man accused of murdering anti-racist protester Heather Heyer after fatally driving his vehicle into a crowd of protesters."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4452 on: December 05, 2021, 02:55:06 AM »
Trump's MAGA cult followers.

Michigan school shooting suspect's mom thanked Trump for right to bear arms in 2016 open letter
https://www.rawstory.com/ethan-crumbley/


'I hope they get the maximum': James Crumbley's ex slams him and his 'monster' wife



In an interview with WXYZ, the former girlfriend of James Crumbley -- and mother of his older son -- ripped into the father of Michigan shooter Ethan Crumbley and stated she hoped he gets the "maximum" after being indicted on four counts of involuntary manslaughter along with his wife Jennifer.

Crumbly and his wife were taken into custody early Saturday morning while hiding out at a Detroit-area industrial park following a manhunt when they failed to turn themselves for their part in their 15-year-old son's murderous spree at his high school that left four dead and seven wounded.

Prior to the Crumbley's being told by a judge they each needed to post $500,000 bail, Michelle Cobb unloaded on the couple calling her ex a "piece of s**t" and his wife a "monster."

"He's a piece of s**t. He really is," she explained while complaining about his failure to pay child sup[port for his 18-year-old son who lives her.

According to Cobb, Ethan's mother put herself between James and his older son Eli.

"Jennifer was a monster," Cobb recalled. "She could do no wrong and she was right about everything. I mean, this is exactly the kind of attitude she has. Like, she, literally, thought she was better than everyone."

As for the couple reportedly buying their son a handgun as a gift, she stated, "They pretty much gave him whatever he wanted. Why would you let a 15-year-old have access, especially knowing that just a few days prior that he was having problems at school?"

She added, "I hope they get the maximum, honestly, all of them. They deserve it. They need to be held accountable for what their child did. They need to have a reality check."

https://www.wxyz.com/news/oxford-school-shooting/james-crumbleys-ex-says-he-left-them-strapped-for-cash-calls-jennifer-a-monster

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« Reply #4453 on: December 05, 2021, 11:24:56 PM »
Trump's neo nazi white supremacists are afraid to be on video.

WATCH: White nationalists flee counterprotesters filming them before melee breaks out



In video posted to Twitter by user @Alexcentral77, members of the white nationalist hate group Patriot Front who marched through Washington on Saturday are seen backing up and then running as they are being filmed loading into vans to leave the area.

On Saturday, videos posted online showed members of the group marching on the National Mall, wearing masks and carrying shields and American flags hung upside down. Later they were seen loading into Penske cargo trucks to depart.

According to a report from the Daily Beast, the departure did not go smoothly as there was not enough vans to bear them away.

In the new video, a group of the white extremists can be seen forming a line and backing up, shields held high, as they are confronted by counterprotesters filming them before suddenly turning and running behind the vans, where a fistfight breaks out after they are followed.

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https://www.rawstory.com/white-nationalists-2655923789/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4454 on: December 06, 2021, 01:37:53 PM »
Trump admits to obstruction of justice in Fox News interview
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-bstruction-of-justice-comey/

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« Reply #4455 on: December 06, 2021, 01:59:39 PM »
Ex-prosecutor fears white supremacist marches in DC if Supreme Court allows everyone to conceal carry guns
https://www.rawstory.com/white-supremacist-march-conceal-carry/