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« Reply #4424 on: December 10, 2021, 12:36:05 PM »
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Donnie is still angry at Bibi for congratulating President Biden on his blowout victory after Donnie's failed coup. 

Trump profanely unloads on former ally Netanyahu for recognizing Biden's win in new interview



Donald Trump is still very bitter that former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called President Joe Biden to congratulate him on his victory in the 2020 presidential election.

Forward senior political reporter Jacob Kornbluh brings word that a new book written by Israeli journalist Barak Ravid features an interview with Trump in which he confirms his rage at Netanyahu for recognizing Biden's victory.

“F**k him,” Trump told Ravid about Netanyahu. “I haven’t spoken to him since.”

Trump told Ravid that he was particular mad at Netanyahu for congratulating Biden so early, and he even falsely claimed that Netanyahu was the first world leader to congratulate the incoming president last year.

Ravid corrected him and said that Netanyahu was not the first leader to congratulate Biden, but Trump still didn't care.

"It was early, OK?" Trump fumed. "Let's put it this way -- he greeted him very early."

Trump also attacked any Israeli Jews who did not support him.

"Who are those 20 percent who do not support me in Israel?" he asked Ravid. "They are ungrateful and they are bad people."

Listen to audio of Trump's profane anti-Netanyahu rant below:
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-netanyahu-2655968856/

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« Reply #4425 on: December 10, 2021, 01:22:34 PM »
Right on cue Criminal Donald and his weak lawyers are crying "witch hunt" again.  :D 

NEW YORK ATTORNEY GENERAL LETITIA JAMES HAS SOME BAD NEWS FOR DONALD TRUMP

She’s staying on the job to finish “important investigations.”



A question that is never far from millions of people’s minds is the matter of Donald Trump, and whether or not he’ll ever be meaningfully held accountable for a lifetime of corruption that would make Al Capone blush. Unfortunately, we don’t have an answer to that at this time. But! Two recent developments suggest the ex-president should be somewhat concerned about his future.

Currently the subject of numerous criminal investigations and facing a clown car of lawsuits, these updates regard the New York attorney general’s fraud investigation of the Trump Organization. The first, per The Washington Post, is that New York A.G. Letitia James has requested Trump sit for a deposition on January 7. As the Post’s Josh Dawsey and David Fahrenthold note, the deposition “marks an escalation in the probe of the former president’s company,” which in July was charged, alongside its longtime CFO, Allen Weisselberg, with more than a dozen felonies, including conspiracy, grand larceny, and multiple counts of tax fraud and falsifying records. (Both Trump’s business and Weisselberg have pleaded not guilty.) At the moment, both James and Manhattan district attorney Cyrus Vance Jr.—who brought the July charges together—are determining if the Trump Organization broke the law by inflating the value of its properties to look attractive to lenders, while deflating them to minimize its tax bills. For instance, in 2012, when the Trump Organization was listing its assets for potential lenders, it said an office building it owns at 40 Wall Street was worth $527 million; a few months later, it told property tax officials the building was worth $16.7 million. Elsewhere, a California golf club was valued at $900,000 or $25 million, depending on the audience, while a suburban New York estate’s valuations ranged from $56 million up to $291 million, which experts say is highly unusual.

Should Trump refuse to appear for James’s deposition—and, if history is any guide, he may—the A.G. could take him to court in an effort to make him comply. In 2020, James’s office subpoenaed Eric Trump, who initially refused to comply, before agreeing to sit for questioning in the fall. Earlier this year, a judge forced the ex-president to be deposed in a case accusing his security guards of assaulting protesters in 2015. While the details of that four-and-a-half hour ordeal have not been made public, Trump biographer Tim O’Brien has a pretty good idea of how it went. “He can’t be scripted, and he’s injudicious, and he often doesn’t understand that the process is about events and facts, rather than being performance art,” O’Brien told the Post. (In 2007, after Trump sued O’Brien for his unflattering but accurate portrait of the guy, O’Brien’s lawyers confronted him with dozens of his own lies. In 2009, a judge dismissed Trump’s case against O’Brien.) In December 2020 and February 2021, Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr., respectively, were deposed under oath by D.C.’s attorney general, and it certainly seemed as though they lied about their involvement in their father’s inauguration. So trouble with depositions appears to be a family affair.

Meanwhile, if Trump thought he was just a few months away from ridding himself of James—who had the ex-president’s foundation shut down in 2019 for illegally scamming charities—he’s in for a big surprise.

In a statement, the Trump Organization decried the deposition as politically motivated, calling it “another political witch-hunt” and saying, “The only focus of the New York AG is to investigate Trump, all for her own political ambitions…. This political prosecution is illegal, unethical and is a travesty to our great state and legal system.” Ronald Fischetti, who has been representing Trump in investigations into his New York financial practices, told the Post that Trump will fight James’s request in court, saying: “What she has been doing, Letitia James, is working with the district attorney’s office, working hand-in-hand with Vance. This is an opportunity for them to get Donald Trump’s testimony under oath and then turn it over to the district attorney’s office.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/12/ny-attorney-general-letitia-james-donald-trump-trump-organization

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4426 on: December 10, 2021, 03:15:51 PM »
"Trump White House chief Mark Meadows turned over to the Jan. 6 committee an email that referred to a PowerPoint calling for Trump to declare a NatSec emergency and have VP Pence delay Biden’s certification."

They had a PowerPoint all crafted for their plot to overthrow the US Government and they are still trying to do it. The insurrection was another plot to cause mass chaos so Trump could declare Martial law and put us in a military state. This is treason and there was no "election fraud".

Rep. Eric Swalwell: "How boldly are Republicans trying to overthrow the Biden government? They had a PowerPoint plan. Why were they so bold? Because they think you and DOJ don’t care and thus they can’t be stopped. We are in a battle for democracy. It’s on life support."


Trump’s White House Passed Around a PowerPoint on How to End American Democracy
Former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows handed over a trove of pre-Jan. 6 documentation. It’s damning stuff




The House Select Committee to Investigate the Jan. 6 Attack on the Capitol on Thursday released slides from a PowerPoint calling for former President Trump to declare a national security emergency in order to delay the certification of the results of the 2020 election. The presentation, headlined was referred to in an email provided to the committee by Mark Meadows, the former White House chief of staff who’s had a rough couple of weeks, to say the least.

The revelation is the latest piece of evidence that Trump and his inner circle, including his allies in Congress, were very actively and very aggressively trying to overturn the results of the election, which Trump lost handily.

The PowerPoint presentation, which spanned 38 pages and was titled “Election fraud, Foreign Interference & Options for 6 JAN,” was part of an email sent on Jan. 5, the day before the attack on the Capitol. The email pertained to a briefing that was to be provided “on the hill.” Hugo Lowell of The Guardian tweeted slides from the presentation on Thursday detailing a conspiracy theory-laden plan for Vice President Pence to install Republican electors in states “where fraud occurred,” and for Trump to declare a national emergency and for all electronic voting to be rendered invalid, citing foreign “control” of electronic voting systems.

In the 13 months since the election, no evidence has emerged that foreign entities influenced the election, or that any significant fraud occurred.

Trump White House chief Mark Meadows turned over to Jan. 6 committee an email that referred to a PowerPoint calling for Trump to declare a NatSec emergency and have VP Pence delay Biden’s certification





The release of the PowerPoint slides laying out options to overthrow democracy comes a day after the committee noted in a letter that Meadows had provided text messages in which he discussed a “highly controversial” plan to overturn the election results by appointing alternate electors in certain states. “I love it,” Meadows replied to the idea, which was sent to him by a lawmaker. Meadows discussed the same plan, which was described as a “direct and collateral attack,” in a separate email. The letter referenced the PowerPoint presentation, as well, but did not provide details of its contents.

The letter sent on Wednesday, which was addressed to Meadows’ attorney, explained that the committee had “no choice” but to move to hold Meadows in contempt of Congress for his refusal to comply with his subpoena. How, if Meadows is refusing to comply, did the committee get ahold of all of these damning documents from the former chief of staff? Meadows last week reached an agreement to cooperate, turned over the material, and then earlier this week changed his mind and is now stonewalling the committee. He’s now suing the committee in an attempt to block his subpoena.

It’s unclear what exactly inspired the reversal. Meadows says the committee was not respecting his claims of executive privilege, to which Chairman Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) said the committee “tried repeatedly to identify with specificity the areas of inquiry” were subject to privilege, but Meadows wouldn’t cooperate. It’s also possible that Meadows decided to buck the committee after reports began to circulate that Trump was pissed at him for revealing a bunch of damning information about how the White House covered up details of Trump’s bout with Covid last year. It’s also possible that Meadows just isn’t very bright.

Regardless, the committee is now in possession of a trove of his documents indicating the extent of Trumpworld’s very real efforts to overturn the election results, efforts that culminated in a throng of supporters storming the Capitol in a violent attack that resulted in five deaths and dozens of injured police officers.

The material turned over by Meadows may be the tip of the iceberg. Committee Vice Chair Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) said last week that the committee is preparing to hold “several weeks” worth of public hearings that will tell the story of the riot at the Capitol in “vivid color.” She added on Thursday that the committee has met with nearly 300 witnesses, that it is conducting multiple depositions and interviews every week, and that it expects a ruling imminently on whether it can obtain Trump’s White House documents. “The investigation is firing on all cylinders,” she wrote.

Hours after Cheney teased an upcoming ruling on Trump’s executive privilege claim, the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals struck it down.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/mark-meadows-overturn-election-results-jan-6-committee-1269532/

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« Reply #4427 on: December 11, 2021, 08:57:52 AM »
The Supreme Court has put Trump on notice about his 'imperial presidency' claims: biographer



In his column for Bloomberg, Donald Trump biographer Timothy O'Brien explained that the former president's big loss in a D.C. Appeals Court over keeping documents from the National Archives out of the hand of the House committee investigating the Jan 6th insurrection will likely suffer the same fate if and when it gets to the Supreme Court.

In a scathing and deeply researched decision from the unanimous court, the judges left no doubt that the former president has no right to restrict the materials while also noting they observed a direct line between the president and the Jan 6th insurrection.

According to O'Brien, who has written extensively about Trump's financial dealings and courtroom battles, writes the Supreme Court's history with the now-former president indicates he shouldn't expect an outcome that will be favorable to him.

As O'Brien notes about case before the appeals court, "That ferocious tableau, evoking domestic terrorism, informed the court’s perspective on the gravity and necessity of the January 6th Committee’s investigation. The court catalogued the various records the committee has sought, including call and visitor logs, calendars, schedules, and the like, and noted that Trump provided some while recently trying to exclude others by claiming privilege."

"After a tour of relevant case law, the court concluded its ruling by returning to the fundamentals informing its decision," the Bloomberg columnist wrote. "That’s about as clear, blunt and principled as you can get. It’s not clear whether the nation’s highest court will agree, however, or how it might view the novel problem of two presidents disagreeing about the scope of executive privilege."

However, he wrote, if the court's history with Trump is any guide -- and the conservative justices stick to their principles -- the former president is unlikely to expect a win.

"The Supreme Court, dominated by its conservative justices, has already given a clear indication of how it views Trump’s fetish for an imperial presidency unfettered by other branches of government or by the rule of law," O'Brien recalled. "Last year, it ruled that Trump had to turn over his tax returns to local prosecutors in New York investigating him and his company for criminal fraud – despite his claims that presidents should be shielded from such requests."

https://www.rawstory.com/the-supreme-court-has-put-trump-on-notice-about-his-imperial-presidency-claims-biographer/


'This is the ballgame': MSNBC's Heilemann says it's all over for Trump after appeals court loss

Speaking with "Morning Joe" co-host Joe Scarborough and Willie Geist on Friday morning, MSNBC contributor John Heilemann claimed the unanimous decision by a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit clearing the way for the House riot committee to receive documents from the National Archives is a devastating blow to Donald Trump.

As the Washington Post reported, the court "denied Trump’s request for a preliminary injunction blocking the National Archives and Records Administration from releasing the first roughly 800 pages of disputed Trump papers after President Biden declined to assert executive privilege as requested by his predecessor, setting up the first of its kind constitutional controversy."

With host Scarborough laughing at the legal argument the former president's lawyers have been hoping would sway the courts, Heilemann said it looks like the end of the road for Trump with only the Supreme Court left to appeal to.

"If you read all 68 pages, it's a line by line rebuke of the president and breaks up the guts of any arguments he's been making that day," co-host Willie Geist prompted.

"It's not just black and white," Scarborough agreed. "With that said, John, this three-judge opinion by the D.C. Circuit was about as black and white -- I mean everything I have ever said about -- you just don't get a slam dunk through the legal system. It's just wrong, the words were so historic."

"There is direct link with linkage between the president and the events of that day, unanimous three-judge opinion in the D.C. Circuit," he continued. "That's very compelling as the lawyers trying to figure out what to do next."

"Very compelling and, in some ways, it rhymes with common sense, right?" the MSNBC contributor replied. "You don't have to be a lawyer to figure out claims of the president to executive privilege now that he's no longer president are absurd."

"The relevance is obvious and the claim of privilege is ridiculous,' he continued while laughing before admitting he is not a lawyer and adding, "It's great when you see the court in such emphatic terms come to the same conclusion. And I will say that this is the ball game."

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« Reply #4428 on: December 11, 2021, 09:13:24 AM »
Trump praised Taliban's 'tough fighters' and pledged to help get their prisoners released



lengthy story about the fall of the American-backed government in Afghanistan and it includes new details based on newly unearthed documents and interviews about the role former President Donald Trump played in freeing key Taliban prisoners.

Specifically, the story says Trump last year had a phone conversation with Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, a founder of the Taliban, in which he praised the Islamic fundamentalists for being difficult to defeat.

"You guys are tough fighters," Trump told him, according to one official who listened to the call. “Do you need something from me?”

“We need to get prisoners released,” Baradar said.

Trump replied that he would get then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to press former Afghan President Ashraf Ghani to release Taliban fighters.

After months of negotiations with the Afghan government, the Taliban leader's efforts paid off.

"Eventually, Ghani found a compromise that gave the Americans what they wanted," writes The New Yorker. "He called a loya jirga, a traditional consultative assembly, to decide the fate of the most problematic Taliban prisoners. In early August, the loya jirga approved the release of everyone on the Taliban’s list, including Hasan and the other prisoners on the 'objection list.'"

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/12/20/the-secret-history-of-the-us-diplomatic-failure-in-afghanistan

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« Reply #4429 on: December 12, 2021, 11:53:26 AM »
Donald Trump is a joke. He's nothing but a career criminal and failed businessman who is a laughing stock among real billionaires. This Qanon conspiracy cult turned this ignorant buffoon into a made up Super Hero and the Republican Party turned this fool into their own personal "God". Trump took advantage of that by spouting off their crazy conspiracy theories and accepted these misfits as his followers.

This Qanon cult is extremely dangerous because they are not living in reality. They go regularly to Dallas believing JFK and JFK Jr. are going to step out from the shadows and embrace Criminal Donald and join forces. The insane conspiracy theories they believe against Democrats are enough to let you know these people are not in their right state of mind. They are also right wing religious fanatics who believe in a deranged violent version of Christianity declaring Liberals as their true enemy. These kooks believe that the only way to obtain their goals is through violence which is how ISIS operates in the Middle East. We saw their violent actions on 1/6 when they took part in the insurrection beating cops and attempting to overthrow the US Government. These nuts believed that God called on them to do it. These nuts believe that career criminal buffoon Criminal Donald is "God" who came to save us. You can't make this stuff up.

What this former member is talking about is correct because another person on Twitter who broke away from this cult detailed nearly the same specifics. When they talk about a "doomsday cult" is pretty scary since these cultists are armed to the teeth with weapons and they have psycho Michael Flynn as their leader of the cult. If you actually read what they are calling for, it will make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. They are also using COVID as a weapon against us by pushing anti vaccine disinformation so people can die. And we have the Republican Party embracing these lunatics and several members of the GOP Congress are part of this deranged cult. That's why the GOP must be voted out in droves or our country will be controlled by a violent right wing Jim Jones cult that believes in deranged conspiracy theories.               

QAnon is on the path to become a violent 'doomsday cult' that will not go away: former member



In a piece for Politico, a high-profile former member of the QAnon conspiracy cult claimed it will not be going away soon and may, in fact, be growing at an unprecedented rate despite the fact that many of the predictions by its leaders have failed to come true.

According to Jitarth Jadeja -- who famously went on CNN to apologize to host Anderson Cooper for claiming the popular host "ate babies" -- stated he stopped believing in QAnon back in 2019 but hasn't entirely escaped its pull.

With the help of Politico's Anastasiia Carrier, Jadeja claimed-- based on his experiences with QAnon -- he is not surprised that members of the cult took part in the Jan. 6th insurrection at the U.S. Capitol and that he fears members may become even more violent.

"These days, QAnon isn’t getting the headlines it was after Jan. 6. I guess most of the world doesn’t pay attention to QAnon anymore unless its followers do something especially bizarre, like the recent gathering in Dallas where hundreds met in hopes of seeing John F. Kennedy Jr. alive. But from where I stand I don’t see QAnon fading away — I see it getting stronger," he confessed. "When I found QAnon, I didn’t just flirt with it — I fell deep. I internalized the idea that the world was run by the Cabal, a Satan-worshiping child-m**esting group of liberal politicians, Hollywood moguls, billionaires and other influential elites. I believed that Donald Trump was leading the fight against the Cabal and that there was a plan in place to defeat them."

After explaining his falling-out and the shame he felt having once been a part in pushing outlandish conspiracies, Jadeja issued a dark warning about the direction QAnon and its adherents are now heading towards.

"I believe QAnon has a lot in common with doomsday cults and in the past, doomsday cults turned violent. I was not surprised when the FBI said that 'digital soldiers' could turn to violence, nor was I surprised by the storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6. I think it’s inevitable that more real-world violence will occur in future. Eventually, Anons will get tired of waiting for the Storm. Then, they will take the bringing of the martial law into their own hands," he wrote.

"I don’t see a natural end point to this conspiracy now," he warned. "It has survived Q’s disappearance and Trump’s 2020 loss, which, according to the theory, was never supposed to happen. The movement is changing, though. QAnon has always been a blanket conspiracy that allowed people to bring what conspiratorial beliefs they wanted into it. Now, without Trump in the White House and Q trying to directs its flow, this inclusiveness has become more pronounced. What is left is a more decentralized movement, with an ever growing range of beliefs, united by a shared culture of distrust toward institutions and a do-it-yourself approach to conspiracy theories."

You can read more here:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/12/11/q-anon-movement-former-believer-523972

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4430 on: December 12, 2021, 11:59:44 AM »
Criminal Donald can't even fill up an arena with his most ardent fans. :D

Of course his white supremacist neo nazi Proud Boy fans were in the house.

Trump rally features 'many empty seats' — prompting closure of arena's top level

Donald Trump's event with former Fox News host Bill O'Reilly on SaPersonay had so many empty seats that organizers closed the top bowl of the stadium.

"Thousands of people donned their red baseball caps or favorite Donald Trump T-shirts in the FLA Live Arena in Sunrise SaPersonay afternoon to see the former president and conservative darling Bill O’Reilly," the South Florida Sun Sentinel reports. "The crowd chanted, 'Let’s go, Brandon' while waiting for the two to appear. ... Many seats remained empty in the cavernous arena. The top level was closed and ticket buyers were 'upgraded' to the lower bowl."

SaPersonay's event was the first of four that are part of Trump's "History Tour" with O'Reilly. The tour continues Sunday in Orlando, where ticket sales have also reportedly been slow, before moving on to Houston and Dallas next weekend.

Tickets for the "History Tour" reportedly started at $100 for upper deck seats and ran into the thousands of dollars for VIP packages. The VIP packages included “floor seats, a 45-minute reception before the show, and photos with Trump and O’Reilly."

One political scientist recently told the Orlando Sentinel that "if not many people show, then I think Democratic and liberal critics will say that it shows that the Trump phenomenon has maybe hit its peak. And that there is a limit to what he can get away with.”

According to the Sun Sentinel, SaPersonay's event featured Trump "deriding the current president, claiming the election was stolen, and portraying the country under Joe Biden as a crime-ridden, inflation-plagued mockery overrun by foreign criminals."

"Trump had few comments that veered from what he has often said publicly," the newspaper reports. "But he made the occasional unrehearsed comment. When the microphone failed and O’Reilly went silent, Trump said he thought something had happened to him."

“I thought he went down, which frankly would have been very exciting," Trump said.

The newspaper also notes that "members of the Proud Boys white nationalists — a group that has resorted to political violence to achieve its ends — were present."

Read the full story:
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-ne-trump-oreilly-sunrise-20211211-vsfro4xm4zbbdmhlfk6zxtbfy4-story.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4431 on: December 12, 2021, 11:32:46 PM »
Hilarious!  :D

Who in their right mind would spend $100 to see this lunatic shout bogus conspiracies? 

Videos show embarrassingly sparse Trump and Bill O'Reilly's rally



The Orlando, Florida rally with former President Donald Trump and disgraced former Fox News host Bill O'Reilly certainly attracted thousands of people, but it was a far cry from selling out the venue. in fact, photos show the entire upper mezzanine was sparse. It was supposed to have been closed off, but it appears that some were able to get to the top rows.

While Trump typically didn't charge for his campaign rallies, his joint events with O'Reilly start at $100 for the cheap tickets. It could have been the major barrier to the crowd size as many folks are using extra income to buy Christmas presents.

A screen capture of the Ticketmaster site showing available tickets revealed many of the areas still had seats available for fans. Videos posted showing the crowds as the event was about to begin revealed the lack of the two men to sell out a full arena, where Trump previously had no trouble.

The Orlando Amway Center holds 20,000 people, though the seats behind the stage were blocked off.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-bill-reilly-crowd-orlando/

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