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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4186 on: October 07, 2021, 06:37:48 PM »
Bizarrely, Biden has start having public events in a fake studio built in the Executive office building built to make it look like he is in the White House.  You can't make that up.  He is the president but they built a fake WH set! He even has fake windows with a digital monitor to make it appear that the Rose garden is outside.  HA HA HA.  Why?  Because he has to read directly off a monitor.  His cognitive impairment has reached such a stage that his advisors don't trust him to speak from the White House.  It's like a kid's doll house and Old Joe is a creepy uncle who has come over for tea.  Unreal.  Meanwhile, Biden's poll numbers are hitting rock bottom in the aftermath of a multitude of disasters:

Biden’s approval rating has dropped to 38%, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday.

“Battered on trust, doubted on leadership, and challenged on overall competency, President Biden is being hammered on all sides as his approval rating continues its downward slide" Quinnipiac University polling analyst Tim Malloy said in a prepared statement

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4187 on: October 07, 2021, 11:24:03 PM »
It's time to arrest Criminal Donald and his henchmen.

REVEALED: Trump pushed so-called 'murder-suicide pact' to 'shred Constitution' in Oval Office meeting

A report from the Senate Judiciary Committee reveals new details about former president Donald Trump's efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

During an Oval Office meeting on Jan. 3, Trump pushed to install a loyalist as acting attorney general who would conduct additional investigations into his false claims of widespread election fraud, according to the New York Times.

In response, several top Department of Justice officials threatened to resign en masse if Trump went through with the plan. White House counsel Pat A. Cipollone also threatened to resign and said his top deputy, Patrick F. Philbin, would step down, too.

"Mr. Trump's proposed plan, Mr. Cipollone argued, would be a 'murder-suicide pact,' one participant recalled. Only near the end of the nearly three-hour meeting did Mr. Trump relent and agree to drop his threat," the Times reports.

The Senate committee's report provides the "most complete account yet of Mr. Trump's efforts to push the department to validate election fraud claims that had been disproved by the F.B.I. and state investigators," according to the Times.

"The interim report, expected to be released publicly this week, describes how Justice Department officials scrambled to stave off a series of events during a period when Mr. Trump was getting advice about blocking certification of the election from a lawyer he had first seen on television and the president's actions were so unsettling that his top general and the House speaker discussed the nuclear chain of command," the Times reports.

Democratic Sen. Richard Durbin, who chairs the committee, issued a statement saying the report suggests Trump would have "shredded the Constitution to stay in power."

"This report shows the American people just how close we came to a constitutional crisis," Durbin said. "Thanks to a number of upstanding Americans in the Department of Justice, Donald Trump was unable to bend the department to his will. But it was not due to a lack of effort."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/06/us/politics/trump-election-fraud-report.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4188 on: October 07, 2021, 11:29:28 PM »
'Stunning distortion of DOJ’s authority': Here are 6 key findings in Senate Judiciary's report on Trump election interference

The U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee has released a sweeping report detailing how former President Donald Trump and a former high-ranking lawyer for the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) attempted to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

The Democratic-led committee's 394-page document contains intricate details about the former president's actions in the days after the presidential election was called for President Joe Biden. A number of bombshell claims were revealed in the report and ⁠— here are six key takeaways from it.

1. "President Trump repeatedly asked DOJ leadership to endorse his false claims that the election was stolen and to assist his efforts to overturn the election results."

The report reveals Trump asked the Justice Department for assistance in overturning the election a total of nine times. The call history includes details about who Trump spoke with along with dates those calls took place.

December 15, 2020 – Oval Office meeting including incoming Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen and Acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue (both men assumed office when William Barr left on Dec. 23)

December 23, 2020 – Trump-Rosen Call

December 24, 2020 – Trump-Rosen Call

December 27, 2020 – Trump-Rosen-Donoghue Call

December 28, 2020 – Trump-Donoghue Call

December 30, 2020 – Trump-Rosen Call

December 31, 2020 – Oval Office meeting including Rosen and Donoghue

January 3, 2021 – Oval Office meeting including Rosen and Donoghue

January 3, 2021 – Trump-Donoghue Call


2. "White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows asked Acting Attorney General Rosen to initiate election fraud investigations on multiple occasions, violating longstanding restrictions on White House-DOJ communications about specific law enforcement matters."

Between December 29 and January 1, Meadows pushed for Rosen to open an investigation into "at least four categories of false election fraud claims" being circulated by Trump, his campaign team, legal team and other allies. At the time, no substantial evidence of election fraud had been produced to support any of the claims. The report also breaks down the four key categories Meadows pressed Rosen about:

"Investigate various discredited claims of election fraud in Georgia that the Trump campaign was simultaneously advancing in a lawsuit that the Georgia Supreme Court had refused to hear on an expedited basis;

Investigate false claims of 'signature match anomalies' in Fulton County, Georgia, even though Republican state elections officials had made clear "there has been no evidence presented of any issues with the signature matching process."

Investigate a theory known as 'Italygate,' which was promoted by an ally of the President's personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, and which held that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and an Italian IT contractor used military satellites to manipulate voting machines and change Trump votes to Biden votes. Meadows also asked DOJ to meet with Giuliani on Italygate and other election fraud claims.

Investigate a series of claims of election fraud in New Mexico that had been widely refuted and in some cases rejected by the courts, including a claim that Dominion Voting Systems machines caused late-night 'vote dumps' for Democratic candidates."

The report also notes that Meadows' actions are in violation of policies that place limitations on communication between White House and DOJ officials in regards to certain law enforcement matters. This policy was put in place after the Watergate scandal.

3. "After personally meeting with Trump, Jeffrey Bossert Clark [former Assistant Attorney General for the Environment and Natural Resources Division] pushed Rosen and Donoghue to assist Trump's election subversion scheme — and told Rosen he would decline Trump's potential offer to install him as Acting Attorney General if Rosen agreed to aid that scheme."

After having private conversations with Trump, Clark pressed Rosen and Donoghue to announce an investigation into election fraud and have legislatures in key swing states appoint alternate election officials. The report highlights a draft letter Clark sent to Rosen and Donoghue on December 28. The letter, which was addressed to Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R), the General Assembly Speaker, and Senate President Pro Tempore, included a number of recommended directives, many of which violated election laws.

In fact, Clark's proposed action, which would have had the DOJ override an already-certified popular vote, was described as "a stunning distortion of DOJ's authority," according to the report:

"The letter was titled "Georgia Proof of Concept" and Clark suggested replicating it in "each relevant state." The letter would have informed state officials that DOJ had "taken notice" of election irregularities in their state and recommended calling a special legislative session to evaluate these irregularities, determine who "won the most legal votes," and consider appointing a new slate of Electors. Clark's proposal to wield DOJ's power to override the already-certified popular vote reflected a stunning distortion of DOJ's authority: DOJ protects ballot access and ballot integrity, but has no role in determining which candidate won a particular election."

4. "Trump allies with links to the 'Stop the Steal' movement and the January 6 insurrection participated in the pressure campaign against DOJ."

The report included a brief list of the Trump allies who have been accused of pressuring DOJ officials to do the former president's bidding. Those individuals also had ties to the former president's "Stop the Steal" movement and the insurrection on the U.S. Capitol that followed Trump's rally on January 6.

They are:

Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.): The report indicates that the Republican lawmaker spoke directly to Donoghue about baseless claims of election fraud in his state.

Pennsylvania State Senator Doug Mastriano (R): As an avid Trump ally, Mastriano reportedly "spent thousands of dollars from his campaign account to provide transportation for Trump supporters to attend the 'Save America Rally' on January 6." The report also indicates that he "was present on the Capitol grounds as the insurrection unfolded." Like Perry, Mastriano also spoke with Donoghue in reference to unfounded claims of election fraud in Pennsylvania.

Trump campaign legal advisor Cleta Mitchell: Described as one of the earliest advocates for Trump's baseless claims of widespread voter fraud, the Senate report also notes Mitchell was a "participant in the January 2, 2021 call where Trump 5 pressured Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to 'find 11,780 votes.'"

5. "Trump forced the resignation of U.S. Attorney Byung Jin ('BJay') Pak, whom he believed was not doing enough to address false claims of election fraud in Georgia. Trump then went outside the line of succession when naming an Acting U.S. Attorney, bypassing First Assistant U.S. Attorney Kurt Erskine and instead, appointing Bobby Christine because he believed Christine would 'do something' about his election fraud claims."

When former U.S. Attorney General Pak's investigative results did not align with the outcome Trump was hoping for, the outraged former president publicly berated him and described him as "a "Never Trumper." The former president also bulldozed over protocol and the proper line of succession to appoint someone he believed would produce favorable results to help him overturn the presidential election.

. "By pursuing false claims of election fraud before votes were certified, DOJ deviated from longstanding practice meant to avoid inserting DOJ itself as an issue in the election."

On November 9, 2020 the former U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr released a memo that "directed prosecutors not to wait until after certification to investigate allegations of voting irregularities that 'could potentially impact the outcome of a federal election in an individual State.'"

6. In doing this, the report emphasizes Barr "weakened" the DOJ's policy to "avoid taking overt steps in election fraud investigations until after votes were certified, in order to avoid inserting DOJ itself as an issue in the election." His actions before and after the election disregarded the DOJ's longstanding practice.

https://www.rawstory.com/stunning-distortion-of-dojs-authority-here-are-6-key-findings-in-senate-judiciary-s-report-on-trump-election-interference/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4189 on: October 07, 2021, 11:32:42 PM »
Legal expert breaks down new bombshell evidence of Trump crimes in Senate report

The Senate Judiciary Committee's interim report on Donald Trump's efforts to overturn his election loss offers clear and abundant evidence of criminal wrongdoing, according to one legal expert.

The interim report, titled "Subverting Justice," outlines how the former president and his allies pressured the Department of Justice to overturn the 2020 election, and law professor Ryan Goodman explained how the findings so far portray a violation of the Political Coercion Act, which prohibits the use of threats or intimidation to benefit a political candidate.

"This prescient analysis helps frame key criminal law issue at hand, the Political Coercion Act 18 USC 610," Goodman tweeted.

The report found that a lower-ranking Justice Department official, Jeffrey Clark, pressed acting attorney general Jeffrey Rosen and acting deputy attorney general Richard Donoghue to send a letter he'd written to Georgia officials filled with debunked claims of election fraud, and the Jan. 2 meeting became heated.

"I reminded [Clark] that I was his boss, that he was apparently continuing to violate the White House contact policy, that that letter was never going out while we were in charge of the Department," Donoghue said. "And I sort of orally reprimanded him on a number of points, including reaching out to witnesses, and [said] 'Who told you to conduct investigations and interview witnesses,' and things like that. It was getting very heated. And then he turned to Acting AG Rosen, and he said, 'Well, the President has offered me the position of Acting Attorney General. I told him I would let him know my decision on Monday. I need to think about that a little bit more.'"

Rosen told Senate investigators that he felt Clark was trying to coerce him into sending the corrupt letter by threatening to take his job on Trump's order.

"Close to that," Rosen said. "That he was saying that having done some due diligence as he requested, that he wasn't satisfied that Rich Donoghue and I were on this, but that he still wasn't sure what his answer would be on it. And he raised another thing that he might point to, that he might be able to say no [to the President], is if – that letter, if I reversed my position on the letter, which I was unwilling to do."

The committee's investigation found that Trump made the same threat himself on Dec. 31 to Rosen and Donoghue by threatening to fire and replace them with Clark, and the report notes that White House chief of staff was present at the Oval Office meeting -- making him a key witness to one of the ex-president's most corrupt acts.

"Bombshell in Dec. 27 call with Trump and Rosen-Donoghue ('just say that the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me') was Trump's threat to fire and replace them with Clark," Goodman tweeted. "Was unclear if Meadows was on that call. Now clear Meadows was in similar New Year's Eve meeting."

The Republican minority's report points out that Trump didn't carry through in his threat to fire Rosen, which the interim report notes came after senior Justice Department officials and White House counsel Pat Cipollone threatened to resign en masse, but Goodman argued the former president already took one step in that direction.

"Before backing down," Goodman wrote, "looks like Trump did first take an affirmative step — an overt action — in furtherance of the scheme (to use the language of criminal conspiracy): Trump offered Clark to install him as acting attorney general and Clark accepted."

https://www.rawstory.com/senate-judiciary-committee-reports/

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« Reply #4190 on: October 08, 2021, 12:09:09 AM »
'Subverting Justice': Senate panel details the 9 times Trump pressured DOJ to overturn election results

On the very day that Attorney General William Barr left office in late December, then-President Donald Trump and top White House aides began a "relentless" pressure campaign aimed at interim Justice Department leaders, including acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen, to overturn the results of the 2020 election, according to a new Senate committee report.

The effort included "near-daily outreach" to the department, such as nine calls and meetings with Rosen and acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue, a Senate Judiciary Committee investigation found. The White House push continued right up to the assault on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, when a mob of Trump supporters sought to block Congress' certification of President Joe Biden's election.

According to the committee, then-acting Assistant Attorney General Jeffrey Clark repeatedly sought to "induce Rosen into helping Trump’s election subversion scheme" by telling Rosen that he would decline Trump's offer that he take Rosen's place if Rosen agreed to join.

The report said Mark Meadows, Trump's chief of staff, pressured Rosen on "multiple occasions" to launch election fraud investigations, "violating longstanding restrictions on White House intervention in DOJ law enforcement matters."

According to the report, Meadows attempted to push Rosen to meet with Trump’s outside lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, who was waging a parallel legal campaign in the courts, where he pressed debunked allegations of voter fraud in multiple states.


DOJ, White House officials threatened to resign

The report recounts a contentious Oval Office meeting Jan. 3, when Donoghue warned that a mass resignation of Justice Department officials and federal prosecutors would follow if Trump moved to replace Rosen with Clark to aid the president's election subversion scheme.

According to testimony by Donoghue and Rosen, the resignations would not be confined to the Justice Department. During the three-hour meeting, the officials said, White House counsel Pat Cipollone and deputy counsel Patrick Philbin threatened to tender their own resignations, reportedly calling Clark's efforts to pursue unfounded voter fraud allegations as “murder-suicide pact.”

After the meeting, Rosen and Donoghue learned that they had prevailed in an email from another Justice Department official: "I only have limited visibility into this, but it sounds like Rosen and the cause of justice won," the email stated. "We will convene a call when Jeff (Rosen) is back in the building (hopefully shortly). Thanks."

"Today’s report shows the American people just how close we came to a constitutional crisis," Judiciary Committee Chairman Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said. "Thanks to a number of upstanding Americans in the Department of Justice, Donald Trump was unable to bend the department to his will.  But it was not due to a lack of effort. Donald Trump would have shredded the Constitution to stay in power."

Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley, the panel's ranking Republican, issued a dissenting version of the testimony provided by Rosen, Donoghue and other officials:  "The transcripts of this investigation speak for themselves, and they paint a very different picture from the left’s claims that the former president weaponized the Justice Department to alter the election results."

"The available evidence shows that President Trump did what we’d expect a president to do on an issue of this importance: he listened to his senior advisors and followed their advice and recommendations," Grassley said.

The Republican minority report characterized Trump's contacts as an expression of "concern with ensuring that DOJ was doing its job of fully investigating allegations of election fraud so that the American people would have confidence in the results of the 2020 election and with particular concern about the people’s faith in the Georgia special election."

"It is well-known that President Trump did not trust some elements at the DOJ and FBI, which evidently contributed to his concerns that DOJ was not doing enough to investigate allegations of election fraud," the minority report concluded.

The Senate report builds on findings by a House committee, which disclosed emails and other communications in July detailing similar efforts by Trump. According to Donoghue's notes of a  telephone call with Rosen on Dec. 27, Trump urged the acting attorney general to make a public statement that "the election was corrupt."

"Just say that the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me and the R. Congressmen," Trump said during the phone call, according to the handwritten notes.

Trump persisted, even though Barr had publicly said before his departure Dec. 23 that the Justice Department had found no evidence of widespread voter fraud that would've changed the results.

Report calls out William Barr for directing investigations into election

The Senate report took Barr to task for allegedly directing officials to "aggressively" pursue claims of election fraud deviating from "decades-long practice" in which the department avoided any appearance of election interference.

Citing a Nov. 9 memorandum, the report concluded that Barr "directly contradicted DOJ’s longstanding policy against overtly investigating election fraud allegations before the election results are certified."

“Accordingly, Barr authorized pre-certification investigations ‘if there are clear and apparently credible allegations of irregularities that, if true, could potentially impact the outcome of a federal election in an individual State’ – and called on prosecutors to ‘timely and appropriately address allegations of voting irregularities so that all of the American people … can have full confidence in the results of our elections.’”

Barr's memo roiled an already unsteady department, prompting the resignation of Justice's Election Crimes Branch chief.

According to the report, Barr directed the FBI to interview witnesses "concerning allegations that election workers at Atlanta’s State Farm Arena secretly tabulated suitcases full of illegal ballots."

"These claims were pushed by Giuliani at a Georgia Senate hearing and had already been debunked by the Georgia Secretary of State’s Office by the time Barr’s requested interviews took place," the report stated.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/10/07/senate-details-donald-trumps-push-doj-overturn-2020-election/6032581001/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4191 on: October 08, 2021, 01:46:38 AM »
38% approval rating and dropping like a rock.  “Battered on trust, doubted on leadership, and challenged on overall competency, President Biden is being hammered on all sides as his approval rating continues its downward slide" Quinnipiac University polling analyst Tim Malloy said in a prepared statement.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4192 on: October 08, 2021, 03:08:27 AM »
It is clear and evident...Rick Plant concedes that the Trump administration was run by Donald Trump.
If that is not true... then over a thousand or so hate posts have been directed at the wrong individual.

Who then, runs the Biden administration?
It is equally as obvious that Joe Biden doesn't.
So I am truly curious.