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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3344 on: January 14, 2021, 11:58:01 PM »
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Okay.  I don't torture children in my basement!  I will deny that.  I won't tell you instead that it is Russian disinformation and leave you hanging. I have nothing to hide, nothing to lose and nothing to gain - pure honesty!   Neither should Joe Biden!  That wasn't so hard was it?   

Last time I checked Donald Trump was a human being too!  Just because your the POTUS, it doesn't mean you aren't human.  A pretty bold statement that he is responsible for the entire country's action.   I guess I am responsible for Epstein's death in a jail cell in New York too!

I haven't seen the post where they were trying to look at the hard drive. They just don't report on it at all.  Can you post please your inference?  I am sure there are lots of copies in public domain.  If the Chinese posted a video of Hunter being masturbated by someone's feet, smoking his crack pipe and taking selfies,  I am sure it is all out there in the open for media to find if they wanted to!   Guiliani doesn't have the only copy.  Maybe the MSM should get the copy from the FBI, they still have the laptop I am guessing!

Last time I checked Donald Trump was a human being too!

Yes, he is, but so were Hitler and Stalin. I have no pity for the man. In four years time he brought the country to the brink of civil war for his own selfish purposes.

Guiliani doesn't have the only copy.  Maybe the MSM should get the copy from the FBI, they still have the laptop I am guessing!

How naive can you be? The FBI isn't going to share anything with the MSM during an ongoing investigation. To think they would is just plain silly. Guiliani, on the other hand, went public with all sorts of claims that he failed to back up by giving anybody access to the material. Even the NYPost did not get the hard drives. They only got what Guiliani gave them. I watched several of his "common sense" videos on YouTube and every time he was saying he had this, that and the other, but when it came right down to it he showed nothing.

Now, if you are the President's lawyer and you have ironclad proof of wrong doing, why would you refuse that others examine it?

Allan, it's pretty obvious you have a pro Trump opinion, and there isn't much point in trying to change your mind. But maybe, you should look back in history to check when we ever had a situation before where a minority (75 million out of 330 million is a minority and 75 million votes against 81 million votes is a minority) stormed the Capitol because they did not like the outcome of an election? Please, think about it for a moment, because this is a dangerous path to go down....
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3345 on: January 15, 2021, 12:12:23 AM »
'Mentally disturbed' Trump will only become more dangerous as he struggles to tolerate reality: psychiatrist
https://www.rawstory.com/severely-mentally-disturbed-psychiatrist-warns-trump/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3346 on: January 15, 2021, 12:15:53 AM »
The real looters are inside the White House stealing artifacts. They are stealing Abe Lincoln.   



Jim Acosta fears Trump aides are looting the White House: ‘Not souvenirs you can take home’
https://www.rawstory.com/white-house-2649943106/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3347 on: January 15, 2021, 12:20:47 AM »
Far right wing extremist groups have law enforcement and military as members and are currently recruiting more. This is something to be concerned about.   

Pentagon warns far-right extremists are recruiting inside the US military
https://www.rawstory.com/extremists-inside-the-military/

QAnon shaman accidentally unravels GOP impeachment defense: ‘He came at the request of the president’
https://www.rawstory.com/jacob-angeli/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3348 on: January 15, 2021, 01:14:20 AM »
Far right wing extremist groups have law enforcement and military as members and are currently recruiting more. This is something to be concerned about.   

Pentagon warns far-right extremists are recruiting inside the US military
https://www.rawstory.com/extremists-inside-the-military/

QAnon shaman accidentally unravels GOP impeachment defense: ‘He came at the request of the president’
https://www.rawstory.com/jacob-angeli/

I don't know much about the tabloid rawstory everyone keeps on referencing on this site, I don't see them in the list.  I assume it is another Vanity Fair and one of those high-risk domains visited!
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Raw_Story

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The Raw Story has been reported on and featured in The New York Times, The Guardian, LA Weekly, the New York Post, the Toronto Star, The Hill, Rolling Stone, The Advocate, Roll Call,[3] and Mother Jones.[4] With an average 10.7 million readers per month (2015),[5] the site is described by Newsweek as, "Muck, raked: If you're looking for alleged GOP malfeasance, the folks at rawstory.com are frequently scooping the mainstream media."[6]

Who could trust Forbes and their opinion!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherelliott/2019/02/21/these-are-the-real-fake-news-sites/?sh=5cf35ab43c3e

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These are the most fake news sites

Among the news site rankings, there are a few surprises. The top news site, for example, is not a national newspaper or a computer-security site but has still managed to draw a record 52 "high risk" domains, according to DomainTools. The "safest" of the sites also fits the same description.

Here's the list of publishers with the most high-risk domains:

1. Newsday (52 historical high-risk domains)

2. The New York Times (49 historical high-risk domains)

3. The Washington Post (20 historical high-risk domains)

4. The New York Post (16 historical high-risk domains)

5. Los Angeles Times (13 historical high-risk domains)

6. New York Daily News (10 historical high-risk domains)

7. USA Today (9 historical high-risk domains)

8. The Boston Globe (6 historical high-risk domains)

9. CSO (5 historical high-risk domains)

10. Chicago Tribune (5 historical high-risk domains)

The man that wrote this column reached an interesting concusion:

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Roughly one-third of my readers said they don't trust any mainstream media outlets, including all the ones for which I write. Ouch. Another third only trusts established mainstream media outlets like this one. And the balance reflected the sentiments of Patricia Seward, a retired health care executive from Kansas City.

"I don’t trust any of the news outlets," she says.

In other words, the DomainTools research, while interesting, is unlikely to change the highly polarized view of the news media in the United States.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3349 on: January 15, 2021, 01:31:05 AM »
I imagine we should add this news source to the list of fake news outlets as well.    I  mentioned this BLM Utah leader a few posts ago that he was part of the crowd.   He was present when Ahsli Babbitt was martyred.  These guys are probably just making it up that he was arrested!

https://www.theepochtimes.com/black-lives-matter-activist-who-stormed-capitol-on-jan-6-arrested-charged_3657333.html

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The Black Lives Matter activist who was seen storming the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 was charged, the Department of Justice said Thursday.

A new court filing says John Earle Sullivan, 26, told FBI agents last week that he was at the Capitol when the breach happened. He said he entered through a window that had been broken out. He also said he was present when Ashli Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was shot dead by a U.S. Capitol Police officer as she tried to climb into the House Speaker’s Lobby through a window.

Sullivan showed agents some of the footage he captured inside the building, which he and others entered illegally.

Videos showed Sullivan and others breaking through a barricade, with the Utah man shouting: “There are so many people. Let’s go. This [Expletive] is ours! [Expletive] yeah. We accomplished this [expletive]. We did this together. [Expletive] yeah! We are all a part of this history. Let’s burn this [Expletive] down.”

He was later heard encouraging protesters to climb a wall to get to an entrance to the Capitol and was seen entering the building.

During one conversation with others while inside, Sullivan said, “We gotta get this [expletive] burned.” At other times, he said, among other things, “it’s our house [expletive]” and “we are getting this [expletive].”
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Sullivan told U.S. Capitol Police officers to stand down so that they wouldn’t get hurt, according to the court filing. He joined the crowd trying to open doors to another part of the Capitol, telling people “Hey guys, I have a knife” and asking them to let him get to the front. He did not make it to the doors. He later tried to get the officers guarding the Speaker’s Lobby to go home, telling them: “Bro, I’ve seen people out there get hurt.”
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3350 on: January 15, 2021, 03:44:49 AM »
I don't know much about the tabloid rawstory everyone keeps on referencing on this site, I don't see them in the list.  I assume it is another Vanity Fair and one of those high-risk domains visited!
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Raw_Story

Who could trust Forbes and their opinion!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherelliott/2019/02/21/these-are-the-real-fake-news-sites/?sh=5cf35ab43c3e

The man that wrote this column reached an interesting concusion:

You assume wrong coming from the guy who posts links from the discredited and far right rag Epoch Times.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3351 on: January 15, 2021, 03:48:16 AM »
I imagine we should add this news source to the list of fake news outlets as well.    I  mentioned this BLM Utah leader a few posts ago that he was part of the crowd.   He was present when Ahsli Babbitt was martyred.  These guys are probably just making it up that he was arrested!

https://www.theepochtimes.com/black-lives-matter-activist-who-stormed-capitol-on-jan-6-arrested-charged_3657333.html

The Epoch Times is a Q conspiracy newspaper that is totally discredited. No surprise that's where Mr. Fritzke gets his conspiracies from. China Don must be proud.

Trump, QAnon and an impending judgment day: Behind the Facebook-fueled rise of The Epoch Times
Started almost two decades ago with a stated mission to “provide information to Chinese communities to help immigrants assimilate into American society,” The Epoch Times now wields one of the biggest social media followings of any news outlet.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-qanon-impending-judgment-day-behind-facebook-fueled-rise-epoch-n1044121


VERIFY: Unsolicited 'The Epoch Times' paper spreads outlandish COVID-19 claims
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/verify-unsolicited-paper-spreads-outlandish-covid-claims/103-9290495e-a501-44fa-b7df-0bb0e385328b
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