Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Joe Elliott]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/james-clyburn-says-somebody-on-the-inside-of-capitol-was-complicit/ar-BB1cB2Pn?ocid=msedgntp

House Majority Whip James Clyburn suggested the ease in which rioters were able to get into the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday suggests that someone on the inside of the Capitol was "complicit" in the assault.
"I do believe that something was going on," Clyburn told CBSN anchor Lana Zak on Friday. "They knew where to go. I've been told … by some other Congress people that their staff are saying that they saw people being allowed into the building through side doors. Who opened those side doors for these protesters, or I call them these mobsters, to come into the building, not through the main entrance where magnetometers are but through side doors. Yes, somebody on the inside of those buildings were complicit in this."

Supporters of President Trump ransacked the building, forcing the evacuation of lawmakers who were meeting to count the Electoral College votes.
Clyburn suggested his inner office was targeted by the mob because there was "activity outside of my inner office where most people don't know where that is."

"The office with my name on the door was not touched. But the office where I do most of my work in, they were on that floor and outside that door," the South Carolina Democrat said.

Clyburn also said he felt something was "amiss" Wednesday morning when he arrived at the Capitol and "the perimeter had not been established."

"There were no security people on the steps. They were all out in a place which I thought gave low security," he said, adding, "They were not just derelict. You could say they were complicit."

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/07/security-fallout-in-capitol-could-be-swift-455803

McConnell said ultimate blame lies with "unhinged criminals" that desecrated the Capitol, but nonetheless suggested that the Congress would have to address the "shocking failures in the Capitol’s security posture and protocols.” Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), a trusted Pelosi ally who chairs the committee in charge of Capitol security logistics, said Sund misled her about the security preparations for the Jan. 6. session.

Lofgren told reporters Thursday that the Capitol Police chief assured her that all contingencies were in place and "there was no doubt they were completely able to keep us secure in the Capitol." The National Guard was at the ready, Lofgren said Sund told her.

"We were told it was all in place, it was all a go," she said. "It was just not true. They had not been called."

Ok. I no longer think there is some possibility of Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund allowing the riot to enter the Capitol. I think it is very likely. He told Representative Lofgren that the National Guard was in place and ready. Yes. All 300 of them. They would have about as much chance as the original Spartan 300. Except the National Guard 300 were placed well away from the Capitol and could not stop the all-critical initial break in. At bad as they had it, least the Spartan 300 where placed squarely in the middle of the narrow pass of Thermopylae where they could block the huge Persian army and not put out of position by hundreds of yards. And just as the Spartan 300 had a Greek traitor who guided the Persians so they can outflank the Spartan 300, it seems the Capitol Police had one or more traitors opening doors allowing the loyal Capital Policemen to get outflanked.

It sounds like Sund arranged for the minimum number to be available so he could tell people, “Don’t worry, we have the National Guard in place”. And there were others who opened doors. And told leaders of the “protesters” which side doors to go to. While many, most of the Capitol Police tried there best, got injured, one got killed, there were at a few who were helping.

[Allan Fritzke]

So this guy might have a little bit right Joe!

[Joe Elliott]

So this guy might have a little bit right Joe!

Watched first 39 seconds. Irrelevant.

[Allan Fritzke]

This is really concerning.  The new round of censorship by big Tech is going to push all the right (conservatives) into a different corner of the world - off on another platform.  2 camps are being formed and there will be no middle ground meeting, debate or conversation.

Having Biden and AOC stating what they did today has dangerously divided the country.   There is absolutely no reach across the aisle here by the left.  75 million people who will be black listed by the 85 million leftists on the other side is not good.      Communication needs to be encouraged not censored.  Freedom of speech (1st amendment) is dangerously close to being eliminated by mass censorship.   The Chinese are laughing all the way to the bank - Democracy fails and they love it.

Cuomo said "who says protesters have to be peaceful" - the list goes on.   
Ayanna Pressley says ""there needs to be unrest in the streets."   
Kamala Harris says  "protesters should not let up".   
Maxine Waters said ""If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere".   
Even Nancy Pelosi said "I just don’t know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country. Maybe there will be...."

She may be more right than she thinks.

The left has never backed down from their stance and continue to push for country breakup.   This will force a bad situation I predict.  Here Prince Charming adds more foliage to the fire - should "maybe take them back behind in the school yard and beat them up"!  It sure looks like there is a real conciliatory leader in the making here.  Talks like a real leader!  Joseph Goebbels!

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2021/01/08/biden-likens-ted-cruz-to-nazi-propagandist-goebbels-for-helping-trump-spread-big-lie-about-election-fraud/

[Colin Crow]

Watched first 39 seconds. Irrelevant.

I managed almost 4 minutes......was looking for something about the circumcision freaks, maybe it was later.

Amazing how the US did not become communist in 2008.....8 years of radical socialist leftist rule then....

Joe McCarthy lives on it seems. While you duck and cover look for some reds under your beds.

[Colin Crow]

This is really concerning.  The new round of censorship by big Tech is going to push all the right (conservatives) into a different corner of the world - off on another platform.  2 camps are being formed and there will be no middle ground meeting, debate or conversation.

Having Biden and AOC stating what they did today has dangerously divided the country.   There is absolutely no reach across the aisle here by the left.  75 million people who will be black listed by the 85 million leftists on the other side is not good.      Communication needs to be encouraged not censored.  Freedom of speech (1st amendment) is dangerously close to being eliminated by mass censorship.   The Chinese are laughing all the way to the bank - Democracy fails and they love it.

Cuomo said "who says protesters have to be peaceful" - the list goes on.   
Ayanna Pressley says ""there needs to be unrest in the streets."   
Kamala Harris says  "protesters should not let up".   
Maxine Waters said ""If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere".   
Even Nancy Pelosi said "I just don’t know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country. Maybe there will be...."

She may be more right than she thinks.

The left has never backed down from their stance and continue to push for country breakup.   This will force a bad situation I predict.  Here Prince Charming adds more foliage to the fire - should "maybe take them back behind in the school yard and beat them up"!  It sure looks like there is a real conciliatory leader in the making here.  Talks like a real leader!  Joseph Goebbels!

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2021/01/08/biden-likens-ted-cruz-to-nazi-propagandist-goebbels-for-helping-trump-spread-big-lie-about-election-fraud/

The Republicans are divided. Not a functional political party. Trump has a militia.....good luck with that long term. Check out the crap spewed out by Fox today......delusional. What is Rupert's true position? WSJ editorial says Trump must go now yet the cringeworthy Hannity/Carlson/Ingraham promote deflection pieces and continue the disinformation campaign. He's having it both ways. Maybe Fox hasn’t got the message yet.

As for Twitter etc, they are commercial entity and have TOS.....nothing to do with first amendment.

[Colin Crow]

This is really concerning.  The new round of censorship by big Tech is going to push all the right (conservatives) into a different corner of the world - off on another platform.  2 camps are being formed and there will be no middle ground meeting, debate or conversation.

Having Biden and AOC stating what they did today has dangerously divided the country.   There is absolutely no reach across the aisle here by the left.  75 million people who will be black listed by the 85 million leftists on the other side is not good.      Communication needs to be encouraged not censored.  Freedom of speech (1st amendment) is dangerously close to being eliminated by mass censorship.   The Chinese are laughing all the way to the bank - Democracy fails and they love it.

Cuomo said "who says protesters have to be peaceful" - the list goes on.   
Ayanna Pressley says ""there needs to be unrest in the streets."   
Kamala Harris says  "protesters should not let up".   
Maxine Waters said ""If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere".   
Even Nancy Pelosi said "I just don’t know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country. Maybe there will be...."

She may be more right than she thinks.

The left has never backed down from their stance and continue to push for country breakup.   This will force a bad situation I predict.  Here Prince Charming adds more foliage to the fire - should "maybe take them back behind in the school yard and beat them up"!  It sure looks like there is a real conciliatory leader in the making here.  Talks like a real leader!  Joseph Goebbels!

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2021/01/08/biden-likens-ted-cruz-to-nazi-propagandist-goebbels-for-helping-trump-spread-big-lie-about-election-fraud/

Funny you mentioned Goebbels......I posted this to Rupert’s national paper here today....waiting for it to be accepted by moderator..

Students of history will recognise the employment of fear, creation of a common enemy and the "big lie" by autocrats to obtain power. In the 1930’s Goebbels was crucial to the rise in popularity of Hitler. Strangely it appears although that Trump had numerous "political commentators" and "news" outlets, cable and social, championing his propaganda he never rose to the heights of popularity of his duly elected German counterpart.

Indeed his popularity amongst the US population never reached 50% and languished in the low 40's for most of his term. Now that the Republican Party is fractured it appears a new "strategy" will be needed. Continue with voter suppression perhaps. Certainly there commentators appear to be simply preaching to the converted and those numbers have proven to be insufficient.