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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2793 on: December 10, 2020, 04:02:51 PM »
Yes, the FBI just issues subpoenas for routine tax purposes.

Get your facts straight. He is not being investigated by the FBI. The U.S. Attorney’s Office in Delaware is not the FBI.

Oh yeah, before I forget. What ever happened to the laptop issue? Ever heard of Steve Bannon's buddy Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui?

The FBI is involved.  The laptop is part of the investigation which includes not only Hunter but also China Joe's wife and brother.  Might be lonely time at the White House with everyone in jail.  Maybe Fang Fang will visit.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2794 on: December 10, 2020, 04:10:42 PM »
You are still clueless. What those 18 states are suing for is to have done what should have been done from the outset: (1) to have the signatures on all mail-in ballots verified by standard/valid criteria and with bipartisan observers present, (2) to have all the ballots that were received after the legal deadlines disqualified, and (3) to have an independent forensic analysis done on the Dominion machines and software in conjunction with a forensic analysis of the tabulations done by those machines and software.

Yeah, I bet that if the Supreme Court followed the law and ordered those four states to take these reasonable actions, you would have left-wing thugs rioting in the streets because they don't care about honest elections and following the law.

I keep asking this, and I'll ask it again: How in the world do you explain the fact that in numerous key counties in those states, the mail-in ballot rejection rate was three, four, and as much as 12 times lower than the historical average, even though, for obvious reasons, we had far, far more mail-in ballots than in any previous election? As many data experts have pointed out, if the mail-in ballots in PA, MI, WI, and GA had been rejected at the average historical rate, Trump would have won. Give me a break.

Yes, I agree with this.  Trump made a mistake framing this as "fraud."  There may have been some of that but the election was stolen not by fraud as it is commonly understood but by changing the rules of the election at the last minute without adequate safeguards in place for mail in ballots.  There was no way to confirm who was voting.  The numbers suggest that something odd happened during this election.  And there are enough of those votes in this election to change the outcome.  It won't happen, though.  The Supreme Court is not going to overturn the results of the election.  At best, they will place some reasonable limits on the ability of local officials to alter the rules for an election at the last minute in a way that is most advantageous for their preferred political party. 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2795 on: December 10, 2020, 05:53:58 PM »
Ok, but none of this supports Claim 1, that the Dominion Voting System computers were rigged. Only 3 % of the national ballots were manually counted. But that is still over 5,000,000 ballots. Allegedly, millions of Trump votes were deleted, or changed to Biden votes by the software. And yet a manual recount of over 5,000,000 ballots doesn’t find any evidence of this? If 1,000,000 votes were changed nationwide, a manual recount of 3% of the ballots should find a discrepancy of something like 30,000 votes. But, amazingly enough, nothing like this number was found.

Now, there may be a perfectly good explanation. Maybe Dominion Voting Systems employed psychics, who told them which counties were safe to manipulate and which to leave alone. Or maybe Biden operatives make up much of Trumps legal team so they made sure they never requested a manual recount in the wrong county. But the more rational view is that this claim of over a million votes being changed by the software is an obvious lie.

If one side is going to cry “Election Fraud”, they better have the truth on their side. They cannot appear to be trying to subvert the will of the people. They better not be making ANY bogus claims. Or I will not believe them. They must be like Caesar’s wife. The Trump team seems to be worse than Caesar’s whore. A rational look at the facts show that Claim 1 is obviously false.


P. S.: I supported Bush in the aftermath of the 2000 Election. Gore requested a highly biased recount of the undervotes of 4 heavily Democratic counties, which contained 37% of the Florida Gore voters but only 25% of the Bush votes. The biased Florida State Supreme Court chose, initially, the biased 4 county recount over a statewide recount, which they could have arranged by mid-November, but didn’t. So, if you are going to preach to me about the Democrats being unfair in 2000, you’re preaching to the choir. But I see the 2020 Election totally differently. Trump makes unfounded claims, like about the Dominion software, and asks us to assume that he is the true winner. If you’re going to overturn a free election, you have to have proof, not claims. Where is the proof that the Dominion software was rigged? Why can’t massive manual recount of millions of votes uncover this truth? I say, the manual recounts did uncover the truth.

If you watched the original HBO documentary you could easily see how backdoor hacks can manipulate data undetected. They demonstrated how having an executable script on a memory card could alter the results and data on that card to be sent on unobserved and unchecked.     You only need someone to understand the software, go in the backdoor and change the numbers on a spreadsheet where ever the data was tabulated.   If you read below expert affidavit, you will see that a "cryptographic key store on DVSthumb drive (reported stolen in Philadelphia)" were stolen pre-election and so could be used to access the system with it.    Why would someone steal keys to your car?   Dominion Voting Systems is fighting to  having anyone examine their software - claiming it is proprietary and can't be investigated.  Their software is nothing more than Smartmatic, Sequoia, Diebold et al with a new name.  Is this flowchart showing the organization changes of electronic voting control inaccurate?  Look at dates and ties and do a little research to see if true.

https://www.fbcoverup.com/docs/library/Scrap-Electronic-Voting-Machines-NOW.pdf


Prove that!  We know for sure that Lord Malloch Brown is a close operative of George Soros and was the chairman of Smartmatic.  Wherever electronic voting has been used, there has been great disputes.  Every time someone raises issues with the results, there is a name change!   Pretty obvious with all name changes that there is skulduggery!  Having George Soros involved should raise some eyebrows!  Brown was also in the UN as well and part of the World Bank.  What is he doing running an election software company named softwre and suddenly now has been reappointed and gathered back to be President of George Soros'   OPEN SOCIETY FOUNDATION?

https://www.un.org/press/en/2006/sga984.doc.htm
https://noqreport.com/2020/12/05/george-soros-names-smartmatics-lord-mark-malloch-brown-as-president-of-open-society/


There is great evidence of this manipulation as brought forward by an affidivat by Cybersecurity Expert Investigator DR. NAVID KESHAVARZ-NIA.   Read through it.  Couple this with Harri Hurst claim that the software is still the same and you can't help but see nothing has changed in the software.  This expert even claimed the data was connected to a server in Frankfurt.  What the H*** is election information going over there for? 

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.19.pdf

If what he says isn't true, then he should be thrown in jail, shouldn't he?  This is an "Expert Scientist"!

There are way too many ties even with the electronic voting system to China, BigTech and political affiliates.  Eric Swalwell and Nancy Pelosi both have had been infiltrated by the Chinese and had Chinese operative working for them.   Pelosi even know the connections.   It isn't Russian Collusion at all that you should be concerned about, you should be concerned about Pelosi, Biden and all those that are making money with the help of the Chinese.  Biden has been compromised by Hunter's laptop which is kept under the radar by news censorship.

https://gnews.org/577635/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2796 on: December 10, 2020, 06:57:10 PM »
The FBI is involved.  The laptop is part of the investigation which includes not only Hunter but also China Joe's wife and brother.  Might be lonely time at the White House with everyone in jail.  Maybe Fang Fang will visit.

So you heaven't heard yet that Steve Bannon and his buddy Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui are behind the laptop scam?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2797 on: December 10, 2020, 07:02:03 PM »
If you watched the original HBO documentary you could easily see how backdoor hacks can manipulate data undetected. They demonstrated how having an executable script on a memory card could alter the results and data on that card to be sent on unobserved and unchecked.     You only need someone to understand the software, go in the backdoor and change the numbers on a spreadsheet where ever the data was tabulated.   If you read below expert affidavit, you will see that a "cryptographic key store on DVSthumb drive (reported stolen in Philadelphia)" were stolen pre-election and so could be used to access the system with it.    Why would someone steal keys to your car?   Dominion Voting Systems is fighting to  having anyone examine their software - claiming it is proprietary and can't be investigated.  Their software is nothing more than Smartmatic, Sequoia, Diebold et al with a new name.  Is this flowchart showing the organization changes of electronic voting control inaccurate?  Look at dates and ties and do a little research to see if true.

https://www.fbcoverup.com/docs/library/Scrap-Electronic-Voting-Machines-NOW.pdf


Prove that!  We know for sure that Lord Malloch Brown is a close operative of George Soros and was the chairman of Smartmatic.  Wherever electronic voting has been used, there has been great disputes.  Every time someone raises issues with the results, there is a name change!   Pretty obvious with all name changes that there is skulduggery!  Having George Soros involved should raise some eyebrows!  Brown was also in the UN as well and part of the World Bank.  What is he doing running an election software company named softwre and suddenly now has been reappointed and gathered back to be President of George Soros'   OPEN SOCIETY FOUNDATION?

https://www.un.org/press/en/2006/sga984.doc.htm
https://noqreport.com/2020/12/05/george-soros-names-smartmatics-lord-mark-malloch-brown-as-president-of-open-society/


There is great evidence of this manipulation as brought forward by an affidivat by Cybersecurity Expert Investigator DR. NAVID KESHAVARZ-NIA.   Read through it.  Couple this with Harri Hurst claim that the software is still the same and you can't help but see nothing has changed in the software.  This expert even claimed the data was connected to a server in Frankfurt.  What the H*** is election information going over there for? 

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.19.pdf

If what he says isn't true, then he should be thrown in jail, shouldn't he?  This is an "Expert Scientist"!

There are way too many ties even with the electronic voting system to China, BigTech and political affiliates.  Eric Swalwell and Nancy Pelosi both have had been infiltrated by the Chinese and had Chinese operative working for them.   Pelosi even know the connections.   It isn't Russian Collusion at all that you should be concerned about, you should be concerned about Pelosi, Biden and all those that are making money with the help of the Chinese.  Biden has been compromised by Hunter's laptop which is kept under the radar by news censorship.

https://gnews.org/577635/


Big Tech, Fake media, an out of control DOJ and FBI, the swamp, the deep state, corrupt politicians and judges, conspiracies left, right and center.....

Your life must be hell   :D

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2798 on: December 10, 2020, 07:58:44 PM »
So you heaven't heard yet that Steve Bannon and his buddy Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui are behind the laptop scam?

LOL.  That one is comedy gold.  Tell your conspiracy fantasies to Hunter's attorney.   He is going to need all the help he can get.  I thought the Russians planted the laptop according to China Joe?  Are you calling the "Big Guy" a liar?  I await the counterintelligence investigation into the Russians to confirm that nutty theory.  It seems like a big story - right?  Russia infringing in the election.  So I'm sure the FBI would clear that up and confirm it wasn't Hunter's laptop by now if that were the case.  Instead they are investigating Hunter.  Wonder what that means?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2799 on: December 10, 2020, 08:10:47 PM »
LOL.  That one is comedy gold.  Tell your conspiracy fantasies to Hunter's attorney.   He is going to need all the help he can get.  I thought the Russians planted the laptop according to China Joe?  Are you calling the "Big Guy" a liar?  I await the counterintelligence investigation into the Russians to confirm that nutty theory.  It seems like a big story - right?  Russia infringing in the election.  So I'm sure the FBI would clear that up and confirm it wasn't Hunter's laptop by now if that were the case.  Instead they are investigating Hunter.  Wonder what that means?

So you haven't heard yet about Bannon and Wengui?

So I'm sure the FBI would clear that up and confirm it wasn't Hunter's laptop by now if that were the case.

No, standard operating procedure is that they do not comment either way about ongoing investigations. That's where Comey screwed up with Hillary Clinton resulting of four years of misery under Trump. They are not going to make the same mistake again.

Instead they are investigating Hunter.  Wonder what that means?

It means they are investingating. No more no less. It does not mean there is a there there.