Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2051 on: October 16, 2020, 02:08:55 AM »
Another 'journalist' lost their reputation in the battle to take Trump down.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/15/media/steve-scully-cspan-suspended/index.html
 
And there you have it. USA's political system is a joke. A tool to make sure Biden is elected. You have no journalism left there. You are getting everything you deserve.

Seems James Murdoch would likely agree.....except it’s not real journalism any more is it?

Online Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2052 on: October 16, 2020, 03:39:34 AM »
President Trump was laser focused tonight.  An outstanding performance.  In contrast to "Professor" Joe.  What a sad sight.  An old man squinting in obvious confusion and fear.  Not understanding where he was or what was happening.  Rambling and bizarre.  What a day for Trump. 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2053 on: October 16, 2020, 04:34:59 AM »
President Trump was laser focused tonight.  An outstanding performance.  In contrast to "Professor" Joe.  What a sad sight.  An old man squinting in obvious confusion and fear.  Not understanding where he was or what was happening.  Rambling and bizarre.  What a day for Trump.
Yes. A triumph.
He refused to disavow Qanon! ( good work, gotta keep the b+*$hit crazy conspiracy vote. [ hence the title of this thread])
Refused to disavow the " fake Osama killed/Seal Team six murdered" retweet! ( gotta keep the crazyba#×$..but I repeat myself)
Did I miss more winning?

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2054 on: October 16, 2020, 05:03:10 AM »
Yes. A triumph.
He refused to disavow Qanon! ( good work, gotta keep the b+*$hit crazy conspiracy vote. [ hence the title of this thread])
Refused to disavow the " fake Osama killed/Seal Team six murdered" retweet! ( gotta keep the crazyba#×$..but I repeat myself)
Did I miss more winning?

Are these presentations likely to influence enough voters at this stage? To be honest I have been following the election pretty closely and consuming lots of material on a daily basis.......I didn’t even bother to watch anything. Just like Covid, I think most are looking for an endpoint soon. Stick a fork in it.

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2055 on: October 16, 2020, 07:08:30 AM »
Seems James Murdoch would likely agree.....except it’s not real journalism any more is it?

Rupert hates losers and suckers too........be prepared for the great Donald drop off at Fox.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/10/rupert-murdoch-off-trump-train

We have seen all this before......

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2056 on: October 16, 2020, 10:44:34 AM »
I am not even surprised you admit your wife uses dumb regurgitated cliches to help you seem clever on this board.

More often than not, cliches happen to be true. And my wife did not help me to seem clever, she helped me to understand the confused mind of a Trump supporter. You seem to not understand the difference.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2057 on: October 16, 2020, 10:49:36 AM »
President Trump was laser focused tonight.  An outstanding performance.  In contrast to "Professor" Joe.  What a sad sight.  An old man squinting in obvious confusion and fear.  Not understanding where he was or what was happening.  Rambling and bizarre.  What a day for Trump.

 :D :D :D

Hilarious how you constantly embarrass yourself with your nonsense. Benedict Donald looked like an absolute fool arguing with Savannah Guthrie and people in the audience. As usual, the pathological liar had no answers to anything.   

Town Hall YouTube Views Suggest Biden hit Trump Where It Hurts Him Most—Ratings

Biden 507,445 viewers
Trump 153,660 viewers

https://www.newsweek.com/youtube-views-suggest-biden-hit-trump-where-it-hurts-him-mostratings-1539635


Moderator Savannah Guthrie hailed for keeping Trump in check at town hall
Today show co-host pressed president on debts, coronavirus and QAnon without letting president dominate


Donald Trump’s floundering performance during Thursday’s NBC town hall left many feeling there was only one winner from the event – Trump’s interviewer, Savannah Guthrie.

Guthrie, a co-host of NBC’s Today morning show, repeatedly got the better of Trump as she pressed the president on his debts, his actions on coronavirus, and the dangerous rightwing conspiracy theory QAnon.

Trump was at times clearly uncomfortable, and his campaign attacked Guthrie less than an hour after the event finished, suggesting Guthrie had filled the role of “Joe Biden surrogate”.

The criticism from the Trump campaign only served to prove that this was a nightmare scenario for the president, who has restricted himself to rightwing media in recent weeks.

In Guthrie, Trump met someone who not only fact-checked him in real time, but at times pushed back on his usually unchallenged rhetoric.

The tone was set early, when Trump claimed that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had found that “85% of people who wear a mask catch [coronavirus]”.

Guthrie corrected the president, explaining that is not what the survey said – it found that of a group of 150 Covid-19 patients, 85% said they had worn a mask.

It was rare for Trump to be contradicted, given his “interviews” with Fox News frequently consist of him phoning in and talking at length, uninterrupted.

A standout moment came when Guthrie challenged Trump over QAnon, a baseless online conspiracy theory that the FBI believes is a potential domestic terror threat.

Asked by Guthrie if he would denounce the QAnon theory and “just say it’s crazy and not true”, Trump responded: “I don’t know about QAnon.”

Guthrie stuck to the topic and suggested to Trump that he did actually know about the conspiracy theory, which has been widely covered in the press and has found support among many of Trump’s backers.

“What I do hear about it, they are very strongly against pedophilia,” Trump said.

The exchange created one of the headlines of the night, as Trump seemingly offered a tacit defense of QAnon, whose adherents believe that a cabal of Satan-worshipping Democrats, Hollywood celebrities and billionaires runs the world while engaging in pedophilia.

Believers and promoters of QAnon are a regular presence in crowds at Trump rallies, and Trump and other Republicans have been reluctant to criticize the movement.

Just this week Trump shared a post from a QAnon Twitter account which claimed, baselessly, that Joe Biden had had a navy Seal team killed. Guthrie asked Trump why he had done so.

“That was a retweet! People can decide for themselves!” Trump said.

Guthrie responded: “I don’t get that. You’re the president, not someone’s crazy uncle.”

On Twitter, Trump’s niece, who wrote the book Too Much and Never Enough documenting her experiences with her uncle, appeared to suggest Guthrie could be mistaken.

After the event, Trump’s communications director issued a statement hailing Trump’s performance – an assessment that probably seemed surprising to many of those who watched the town hall.

“Even though the commission canceled the in-person debate that could have happened tonight, one occurred anyway, and President Trump soundly defeated NBC’s Savannah Guthrie in her role as debate opponent and Joe Biden surrogate,” Murtaugh said.

Murtagh added: “President Trump masterfully handled Guthrie’s attacks.”

Guthrie succeeded in challenging Trump on his finances – following a New York Times investigation that revealed Trump owns a $421m debt.

“Who do you owe $421m to?” Guthrie said.

Trump equivocated and claimed he owed “a very small amount of money” and was “underlevered”.

Guthrie asked: “Are you confirming that, yes, you do owe some $400m?”

“What I’m saying is that it’s a tiny percentage of my net worth,” Trump said.

“That sounds like yes,” Guthrie responded.

The sense that Trump was being subjected to real journalism recalled a contentious Fox News interview with Trump, and an Axios interview, but they came in July and August respectively.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/15/savannah-guthrie-trump-town-hall-moderator


Savannah Guthrie delivered the Trump interview we’ve been wanting for years
“I just told you”: Savannah Guthrie showed how to interrogate Trump


https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/10/15/21518763/savannah-guthrie-trump-town-hall-nbc-miami