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Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #120 on: July 17, 2020, 07:36:43 PM »
If, in fact, there is no facts supported debate out of consideration of a strategy to insulate certain Arkansas children from potential financial responsibility under that state's unusual law, it would tend to rule out anything other than racism as the primary reason there has been no sign of debate. Of course, it is possible to suffer from severe mental health issues and still strategize, as Trump himself is doing.

Unfortunately, due to the peculiarity of the "clawback" law in just one state, there is an incentive to avoid confirming if the unresponsiveness to the last 50+ requests for links supported debate is the result of medical disorder, racism aggravated by medical disorder, or a combination of the two. Just as parents deliberately excluded from affordable healthcare coverage in 12 red states by Trump party legislatures and governors refusing medicaid expansion as ACA intended would be hesitant to increase the likelihood of economic ruin by exposing their school age children to school attendance, parents in Arkansas are economically motivated to avoid mental health evaluation potentially exposing their children for the cost of the long term care of the disease of a parent.
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Some observations, and warnings. States, county, and city governments find themselves in dire financial straits due to the interruption in revenue streams resulting from covid-19 effects on economic activity. They will all reduce services and seek innovative methods never widely resorted to previously to collect revenue to literally attempt to continue to function.

At this link, below the U.S. states map (duplicated at the bottom this post)
https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-brief/status-of-state-medicaid-expansion-decisions-interactive-map/
....read of the detailed lunacy, state by state, of the republican/Trump party state legislatures and governors in their nine years effort to deny legislative accomplishment to "the negro in the White House", first by relabeling the ACA as "Obamacare" in an effort to disparage this vital and prescient health care reform resulting in elimination of pre-existing medical conditions as disqualifying affordability by private health insurance issuers to all but the wealthiest.

Just three states, combine population of 58 million, Texas, Florida, and Georgia, "enjoy" at least 5 million residents without affordable healthcare coverage during covid-19 pandemic.

VS in California, a state of 40 million with almost all qualified under ACA medicaid expansion are protected with affordable healthcare coverage and have the ability, economically, to seek timely treatment for symptoms of illness instead of dragging themselves to their jobs until their illness feels acute enough to seek much more expensive ER diagnosis and care, the cost unreimbursed  to states still refusing to accept ACA medicaid expansion.

Why would any of the primarily working poor parents in states denying ACA medicaid expansion coverage to them, risk sending their kids into schools without adequate access to testing or followup tracing, while risking their kids bringing covid-19 home from schools, raising the risk of parents with no affordable healthcare coverage and the risk of needing medical care resulting in economic ruin?

Lay offs of state and local government employees are only at the early stages. Moscow Donald & Mitch blocked legislating direct aid to help states and local governments continue to provide services during this crisis while continuing to employ as many as needed to maintain vital services and efficient government while addressing local pandemic response.

The "Moscow Boys" claimed the need was primarily in blue states and there was little political benefit in appropriating financial aid too states in which the majority do not vote Trump party and providing temporary financial support would be rewarding fiscally irresponsible states with large unfunded pension obligations, such as Illinois. It mattered not that Moscow Mitch's state of Kentucky is one of the two poorest states and also has a "top ten" unfunded pension obligation.

In this example, it seems wise to avoid burdening the kids down the road by at least trying to "nip in the bud", the health disorder we've witnessed in a plethora symptoms filled posts. The alternative is to heavily burden the kids down the road. This is not a set up for improvement, if left unevaluated and untreated. The illness, similarly to covid-19, is not going to just disappear.

"Many people don't know" that in 26 states, children can be held financially for the $5,000 monthly cost of long term care each state medicaid program pays for the majority of elderly who require such care.

This state, however, has a narrower requirement for children to pay back medicaid.:
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Fascinating.

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #121 on: July 17, 2020, 08:59:48 PM »
Nobody, except some whining GOP Trump supporters watching Fox News, cares about the fake "scandals" the Republicans come up with on a regular basis. They didn't care about Bengazhi, which the Republicans investigated 9 times and found nothing, the so-called Clinton "e-mail scandal" that went nowhere, the alleged but never proven Burisma/Hunter Biden "corruption scandal", and nobody sure as hell cares about this so-call "spying crap".

Fox News is already preparing it's viewers for a delayed Burham report, likely until after the elections, for the simple reason that there is no there there. And Joe Biden doesn't have to explain anything to losers like Storing. Unmasking was part of his job, period!

If anybody needs to explain something it's Trump. He should tell all of us why he divided the country, let 137.000 people die of Covid-19, caused a record breaking recession and massive unemployment as well as why he is in court right now to try and take away the healthcare coverage of millions under the affordable care act in the middle of a pandemic. That's what the voters will care about in November and that's why Trump will go down in flames......

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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #122 on: July 17, 2020, 09:13:24 PM »
Nobody, except some whining GOP Trump supporters watching Fox News, cares about the fake "scandals" the Republicans come up with on a regular basis. They didn't care about Bengazhi, which the Republicans investigated 9 times and found nothing, the so-called Clinton "e-mail scandal" that went nowhere, the alleged but never proven Burisma/Hunter Biden "corruption scandal", and nobody sure as hell cares about this so-call "spying crap".

Fox News is already preparing it's viewers for a delayed Burham report, likely until after the elections, for the simple reason that there is no there there. And Joe Biden doesn't have to explain anything to losers like Storing. Unmasking was part of his job, period!

If anybody needs to explain something it's Trump. He should tell all of us why he divided the country, let 137.000 people die of Covid-19, caused a record breaking recession and massive unemployment as well as why he is in court right now to try and take away the healthcare coverage of millions under the affordable care act in the middle of a pandemic. That's what the voters will care about in November and that's why Trump will go down in flames......

And why he hasn't called our Vladimir Putin for placing bounties on our troops.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #123 on: July 17, 2020, 09:58:08 PM »
  Since when is UNMASKING part of the VP's Job??  You need to get off that Spanish Island you are hiding at and separate Yourself from that Local Hootch you are consuming. "VP's JOB"?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #124 on: July 17, 2020, 10:01:46 PM »
  Since when is UNMASKING part of the VP's Job??  You need to get off that Spanish Island you are hiding at and separate Yourself from that Local Hootch you are consuming. "VP's JOB"?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

NEVER answers ANY question. Cannot defend the lunatic in the WH. Runs and hides from any and all debate. Sure, they seek out his counsel. My turn. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #125 on: July 17, 2020, 10:08:14 PM »
And why he hasn't called our Vladimir Putin for placing bounties on our troops.

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   Even MORE Fake News being Parroted around here.

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #126 on: July 17, 2020, 10:11:34 PM »
  Since when is UNMASKING part of the VP's Job??  You need to get off that Spanish Island you are hiding at and separate Yourself from that Local Hootch you are consuming. "VP's JOB"?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Since when is UNMASKING part of the VP's Job??

Just how dumb can somebody be? If it wasn't part of his job, he wouldn't have been able to do it..... My 8 year old grandchild gets this, so why don't you?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #127 on: July 17, 2020, 10:15:09 PM »
Since when is UNMASKING part of the VP's Job??

Just how dumb can somebody be? If it wasn't part of his job, he wouldn't have been able to do it..... My 8 year old grandchild gets this, so why don't you?

    Based on the "Logic" employed above, Everything Nixon did was therefore "Part of his job". Guess Tricky Dick resigned for nothing.

Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #128 on: July 17, 2020, 10:15:42 PM »
Since when is UNMASKING part of the VP's Job??

Just how dumb can somebody be? If it wasn't part of his job, he wouldn't have been able to do it..... My 8 year old grandchild gets this, so why don't you?

Your 8 year old grandchild is better educated.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #129 on: July 17, 2020, 10:22:40 PM »
Storing? We laugh at you. This is the reason. Trump flips out after Fox’s Chris Wallace tells him Joe Biden doesn’t support defunding police.

Eric W. Dolan

President Donald Trump interrupted an interview with Chris Wallace on Friday, after the Fox News host told him that former Vice President Joe Biden does not want to “defund” police departments.

The incident occurred as the two were discussing a rise in crime.

“It’s because they want to defund the police — and Biden wants to defund the police,” Trump said.

“Sir, he does not,” Wallace interjected.

“Look, he signed a charter with Bernie Sanders,” Trump began.

“And it says nothing about defunding the police,” Wallace insisted.

“Oh really? It says abolish. It says — let’s go. Get me the charter, please,” Trump said, interrupting the interview.

Wallace said that Trump had an aide retrieve the charter in question. But the president failed to find language about defunding the police after reading through it.


 

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