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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #536 on: October 14, 2020, 12:04:12 PM »
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Why is it that Baker was " mistaken" as to which floor he encountered Oswald on, but Reid is not " mistaken" in her account? ( Scranton's testimony is hearsay, by the way.)

And, again, moving the Oswald encounter down a few floors seems counterintuitive to the official story, i.e. the third or fourth floor is closer to the sniper's nest, therefore much more damning. The second floor lunchroom encounter is an odd fabrication - wish I could figure out its purpose.
Baker could've been mistaken because he'd never been in the building, was full of adrenaline, gun drawn, anticipating meeting an armed assailant, racing up and down a building he had to recall later.
Reid worked in the building. Why should she have been mistaken?
Isn't that obvious?
Scranton confirms Reid is telling her version of the Oswald encounter immediately after the shooting, before Oswald is even arrested.
Oswald confirms this story in his interrogation (apparently).
This confirms Baker's story even though he's mistaken about the floor.
All of which is confirmed by Truly.
Scranton, Reid, Oswald, Baker, Truly.
Also, the timing of Reid's account fits perfectly with that of Baker and Truly.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #537 on: October 14, 2020, 10:30:41 PM »
She is clearly referring to herself and her work colleagues. It is unreasonable to assume otherwise.

It's unreasonable to assume that these 4 people all marched (or ran) together in lockstep after the assassination.

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"...there was a quiet calm while the shots were fired and then, when everybody realised the shots were fired, the car sped on, then it erupted in pandemonium and everybody started running every place, so we came back to the building..."

We're definitely going to have to disagree on that.

And yet somehow you know that they were all back at the building "in less than 30 seconds".

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #538 on: October 14, 2020, 10:36:53 PM »
Considering prayer-blob is seen in Darnell approximately 30 seconds after the shooting I find it incredibly difficult to believe someone could get from that position, race up to the second floor lunchroom, buy a Coke then bump into Mrs Reid seconds later.

More evidence that prayer-blob is not Oswald  8)

You finding something "hard to believe" does not constitute "evidence".

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #538 on: October 14, 2020, 10:36:53 PM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #539 on: October 14, 2020, 10:45:14 PM »
There are two important aspects to Karen Westbrook Scranton's revelation concerning Mrs Reid in her "Living History" interview. Firstly, it corroborates Reid's version of meeting Oswald with a coke in his hand in the second floor office.

No, actually it doesn't.  It just corroborates that Reid told the same story.  It's not an independent account.

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So it would appear we have a corroborated first-hand eye-witness account of Oswald being on the second floor seconds after the shooting which itself confirms, to a certain extent, the second floor lunchroom encounter with Oswald and Baker.                                                 

No, not even to any extent.  Mrs Reid didn't know first-hand that Oswald came from the lunchroom or that there was an encounter there.  And in Westbrook's account, there is no mention of where Reid was when she saw Oswald or how long after the assassination.
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #540 on: October 14, 2020, 11:35:12 PM »
It's unreasonable to assume that these 4 people all marched (or ran) together in lockstep after the assassination.

Agreed. They were not in lockstep.

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And yet somehow you know that they were all back at the building "in less than 30 seconds".

Running back to the TSBD from the site of the assassination would get you there in well under 30 seconds. Probably half that time.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #541 on: October 14, 2020, 11:36:02 PM »
You finding something "hard to believe" does not constitute "evidence".

Agreed. I didn't suggest it was.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #542 on: October 14, 2020, 11:49:08 PM »
No, actually it doesn't.  It just corroborates that Reid told the same story.  It's not an independent account.

It was poorly phrased. It does indeed corroborate that Reid told the story of her encounter with Oswald before Oswald was arrested.
I'm obviously not suggesting that it was an independent account. That's a silly thing to say.

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No, not even to any extent.  Mrs Reid didn't know first-hand that Oswald came from the lunchroom or that there was an encounter there.  And in Westbrook's account, there is no mention of where Reid was when she saw Oswald or how long after the assassination.

To the extent that Oswald has just come from the lunchroom (full bottle of coke in hand) seconds after the shooting has finished. The Truly/Baker account of the lunchroom encounter marries perfectly with Reid's in terms of timing. The two accounts (Reid's and Truly/Baker's) corroborate each other.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #543 on: October 14, 2020, 11:50:58 PM »
Agreed. I didn't suggest it was.



More evidence that prayer-blob is not Oswald  8)
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