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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #360 on: August 16, 2020, 06:43:16 PM »
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I don't agree or disagree. I don't make judgement calls based on blurry pictures.
It's not a call based on a blurry photo.
There is corroborating photo/video evidence placing Lovelady in that area (Wiegman, Darnell, Altgens) and Lovelady's own testimonial evidence that he was stood at the far right of the entranceway as the motorcade passed by.

Can you make the ID now?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #360 on: August 16, 2020, 06:43:16 PM »


Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #361 on: August 16, 2020, 07:04:47 PM »
It's not a call based on a blurry photo.
There is corroborating photo/video evidence placing Lovelady in that area (Wiegman, Darnell, Altgens) and Lovelady's own testimonial evidence that he was stood at the far right of the entranceway as the motorcade passed by.

Can you make the ID now?

No because there is not enough conclusive evidence.

There is sufficient evidence to conclude that Loveday was on or near the stairs to the front door of the TSBD at the time of the shooting but it's not enough to conclude that the person seen in the blurry picture and/or video is him or not.


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #362 on: August 16, 2020, 07:07:13 PM »
Lovelady's own testimonial evidence that he was stood at the far right of the entranceway as the motorcade passed by.

Mr O'Meara, why have you left out a key part of the quote (just like poor lost fanatical Mr Doyle used to do)?

----------------"standing on the top step to the far right against the wall of the entranceway"

Is that what the Hughes frames show?

It's almost as though poor lost fanatical Mr Doyle himself is feeding you your Stanton material!

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #362 on: August 16, 2020, 07:07:13 PM »


Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #363 on: August 16, 2020, 08:20:36 PM »
Mr O'Meara, why have you left out a key part of the quote (just like poor lost fanatical Mr Doyle used to do)?

----------------"standing on the top step to the far right against the wall of the entranceway"

Is that what the Hughes frames show?

It's almost as though poor lost fanatical Mr Doyle himself is feeding you your Stanton material!

 :D
:D :D :D So you do agree that's Lovelady shown on the far right of the entranceway in the Hughes clip.
Lovelady then moves up to the top step in Altgens just seconds later. He is in the same position in the first Wiegman clip before moving down a step or two in the second Wiegman clip then back to his original position in Darnell.
So as the motorcade passes Lovelady moves to the top step. We have photo/video evidence that is the case.
At the time he does this he is saying Stanton is next to him.
It can only refer to the person in the position who you need to believe is Oswald.
It can't refer to anyone else.






Who else can Lovelady be referring to?
And remember, Stanton herself says that as soon as the motorcade passes the front of the building she can no longer see it. We can deduce from Altgens that the only person in such a position must be stood in the corner to Lovelady's right.
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Who else can Lovelady be referring to?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #364 on: August 16, 2020, 10:33:16 PM »
:D :D :D So you do agree that's Lovelady shown on the far right of the entranceway in the Hughes clip.
Lovelady then moves up to the top step in Altgens just seconds later.

If your understanding of angles went beyond Doyle levels, Mr O'Meara, you would understand that the Altgens photograph shows Mr Lovelady near the center railing.

Unfortunately, however, your level of understanding is weirdly coincident with the Doyle level of understanding, so you're just making a fool of yourself in exactly the same way Mr Doyle used to do before he was banned!  Thumb1:

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And remember, Stanton herself says that as soon as the motorcade passes the front of the building she can no longer see it.

As did Messrs Molina and (Otis) Williams. But you have already had this pointed out to you and------------in true Doyle style----------ignore what's inconvenient to the crazy Doyle claim that Prayer Man is an obese woman wearing a dark wig in a professional situation.

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We can deduce from Altgens that the only person in such a position must be stood in the corner to Lovelady's right.

Who's 'we' here, Mr O'Meara? You and Mr Doyle?

Look, Mr O'Meara, you played a good game initially, pretending to be interested in the whole Rowland-Williams-chicken thing. But once the word 'Stanton' passed your lips for the first time, you blew it--------------your sad obsession was revealed!

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #365 on: August 17, 2020, 01:06:47 AM »
If your understanding of angles went beyond Doyle levels, Mr O'Meara, you would understand that the Altgens photograph shows Mr Lovelady near the center railing.

Unfortunately, however, your level of understanding is weirdly coincident with the Doyle level of understanding, so you're just making a fool of yourself in exactly the same way Mr Doyle used to do before he was banned!  Thumb1:

As did Messrs Molina and (Otis) Williams. But you have already had this pointed out to you and------------in true Doyle style----------ignore what's inconvenient to the crazy Doyle claim that Prayer Man is an obese woman wearing a dark wig in a professional situation.

Who's 'we' here, Mr O'Meara? You and Mr Doyle?

Look, Mr O'Meara, you played a good game initially, pretending to be interested in the whole Rowland-Williams-chicken thing. But once the word 'Stanton' passed your lips for the first time, you blew it--------------your sad obsession was revealed!

 :D

As soon as the word 'Stanton' passed my lips your sad obsession was revealed (in truth it's always been there)

I know exactly where Lovelady is stood in Altgens but you seem to be unaware Altgens shows Molina looking at the Presidential limo and the only reason Williams can't see it is because he's looking the other way! Are you familiar with the photo in question?
Neither Williams nor Molina state they can't see the motorcade once it passes the front entrance, this is classic Ford fantasia.

Of the people stood on the top step only Stanton states she can't see the limo once it passes the front of the TSBD.

When Lovelady refers to Stanton he is referring to the object of your obsession, the blurry figure stood near the west corner
Who else could he be referring to Alan? Answer this question. 8)

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #366 on: August 17, 2020, 10:40:52 AM »
Neither Williams nor Molina state they can't see the motorcade once it passes the front entrance, this is classic Ford fantasia.

:D :D :D

More Doyle-style fabrication from the new Mr Doyle!

---------"Just after his car disappeared from my view I heard three shots." (Mr Joe Molina, 3/25/64)

---------"Just after the Presidential car passed the building and went out of sight over the Elm St embankment I heard three loud blasts." (Mr Otis Williams, 3/19/64)

How many more lies is the new Mr Doyle willing to tell in his Doyle-grade crazy effort to sell Prayer Man as an obese woman wearing a dark wig and smoking a cigarette?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #367 on: August 17, 2020, 07:44:42 PM »
:D :D :D

More Doyle-style fabrication from the new Mr Doyle!

---------"Just after his car disappeared from my view I heard three shots." (Mr Joe Molina, 3/25/64)

---------"Just after the Presidential car passed the building and went out of sight over the Elm St embankment I heard three loud blasts." (Mr Otis Williams, 3/19/64)

How many more lies is the new Mr Doyle willing to tell in his Doyle-grade crazy effort to sell Prayer Man as an obese woman wearing a dark wig and smoking a cigarette?

Are you for real?
Neither of these is a statement saying they lost sight of the Presidential limo as soon as it passed the front entrance. William's statement is specifically saying he watched it until it went out of sight over the Elm St embankment! What are you thinking?

Look at the Altgens pic. Use your eyes. Both Molina and Williams can be clearly seen, meaning they have a view of the limo after it has passed the front entrance.
Are you that much of a PM zealot you can't see the obvious?

When Lovelady refers to Stanton he is referring to the object of your obsession, the blurry figure stood near the west corner
Who else could he be referring to Alan? For the third time, answer this question.
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