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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2304 on: March 16, 2023, 03:12:17 PM »
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And then there's the question of how the man [EDIT: WOMAN] can be holding the object at an angle without its plunging vertically. He's [EDIT: SHE'S] in front of the larger mailbox on the (=our) right, so it's not being supported by that. And we see a little of it underneath the horizontal plank of the road works barrier, which means that barrier is not supporting it either:



Kinda reminds us, don't it, of a not wholly dissimilar question folks have asked for years about this famous object:



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2304 on: March 16, 2023, 03:12:17 PM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2305 on: March 16, 2023, 03:37:41 PM »
Well, well, well....................


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2306 on: March 16, 2023, 04:25:25 PM »
So! It turns out the first officer to see the famous paper bag was none other than Officer Marrion L. Baker. He saw it not on the sixth floor but in the hands of some civilian (perhaps Mr. Bill Shelley) who, having witnessed Mr. Oswald's political stunt and having seen Mr. Oswald leave the steps and throw the long package behind the two mailboxes in front of the Depository, had just retrieved it from behind those mailboxes and was holding it up.

Mr. Oswald had brought the flag outside wrapped in a long bag made out of TSBD wrapping paper. Having taken up his position in the doorway, he furtively took the flag out of the bag in time to have it ready to wave at Pres. Kennedy. After making this political gesture, he rolled the flag up again around its makeshift curtain-rod flagstaff and put it back in the bag. Then he left the steps and disposed of the bag as described above.

Mr. Oswald had not come into work that morning with that bag, which he only needed for concealment purposes after attaching the flagstaff to the flag (an action performed at some point while in the Depository that morning). He had come into work with the smaller bag described by Mr. Buell Wesley Frazier, containing either 'dissassembled' flag (i.e. flag + not-yet-attached extendable curtain rod/s) or just the two curtain rods (the flag having already been sourced elsewhere and hidden somewhere in the Depository). However, he was seen with the longer bag by at least one person later that day:

Mr. BALL - Did you ever see Lee Oswald carry any sort of large package?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I didn't, but some of the fellows said they did.
Mr. BALL - Who said that?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, Bill Shelley, he told me that he thought he saw him carrying a fairly good-sized package.
Mr. BALL - When did Shelley tell you that?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, it was--the day after it happened.


The 'investigating' authorities knew full well the true circumstances of the long paper bag's discovery, as well as what had been in it, but they naturally took the decision to exploit the long paper bag (fingerprints, yum yum) as the bag Mr. Oswald had supposedly used to bring a rifle into work with that morning.



As for what Officer Baker did after running up to the man holding the long paper bag? Well, it's safe to say that thereby hangs a tale very different to the one he and Mr. Truly told the Warren Commission..................

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2307 on: March 16, 2023, 10:42:14 PM »
And what in the heck are these things that look like the legs of a junior mannequin?



Well, blow me down---------the person holding the long paper sack ain't a man but a woman in a skirt!


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2308 on: March 18, 2023, 01:04:09 AM »
Officer Baker AND a woman (red box) are running over to the woman holding up the long paper sack:



She has just seen something that has troubled her enough to go pick the sack up and draw attention to it:



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2309 on: March 18, 2023, 01:17:30 AM »
She has just seen something that has troubled her enough to go pick the sack up and draw attention to it

Was this something the real LHO-Reid encounter?



If so, then poor woman, what an awful burden to have to carry...................



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2310 on: March 18, 2023, 01:23:08 AM »
Was this something the real LHO-Reid encounter?



Was Mrs. Reid's having handled the paper sack the real reason why Mr. Truly, in June '64, protested against the idea of fingerprints and palm prints being taken from Depository employees other than the men who had had access to the sixth floor? And why his-------------on the face of it outrageous-------------request was actually granted?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2311 on: March 18, 2023, 01:47:58 AM »
Friends, there have been three tremendous breakthroughs in the most recent phase of this thread. These three revelations are--------NB!--------- inter-related, and they drop a nuclear bomb on the official story:

ONE.

GREEN ARROW: MR. LEE HARVEY OSWALD
YELLOW ARROW: MR. BILLY NOLAN LOVELADY



[Credit for posting of source GIF: Mr. Jerry Organ]

TWO.

MR. OSWALD WAVES A FLAG AS JFK PASSES THE BUILDING



THREE.

CE142 (THE PAPER BAG) SHOWS UP OUTSIDE THE DEPOSITORY IN THE DARNELL FILM---------WITH OFFICER BAKER RUNNING TOWARDS THE WOMAN WHO IS HOLDING IT UP




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