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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1120 on: January 27, 2021, 07:45:21 PM »
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You never answered my question: why in the hell would Mr Oswald (guilty or innocent) say something so crazily self-incriminating? And why was this last-minute bombshell confession not proclaimed to the world after his death that Sunday morning?

You never asked the question

Incorrect!-----see Reply #1120

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and there is no answer. Why does anyone do anything, but LHO did.

Right, you can't explain why he would do such a crazy thing

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Obviously his alibis were crumbling as they spoke to the coworkers. He wasn't just talking they were interacting with him.

So why did nobody in those interrogations ever offer the slightest indication that Mr Oswald changed his claimed whereabouts at the time of the assassination? You think they wanted to protect Mr Oswald's good name?

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So--------contrary to your early claim---------you don't believe Mr Oswald consistently confirmed a second floor lunchroom encounter. Because Postal Inspector Holmes, whose every word you trust, has him put it "First floor. Front entrance to the first floor".


It is not contrary to any claim.

Holmes: "when he went down stairs, a policeman questioned him as to his identification and his boss stated that "he is one of our employees" whereupon the policeman had him step aside momentarily. Following this, he simply walked out the front door of the building."

No where in the statement does he state the encounter was on the first floor. You are reading that into it.

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Mr Holmes is asked in his WC testimony where Mr Oswald located the encounter, and his answer is: "First floor. Front entrance to the first floor". He even goes on to describe the layout of that part of the building, despite never having set foot in it.

So---------what I'm reading into "First floor. Front entrance to the first floor" is: First floor, front entrance to the first floor. Kooky, huh?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1120 on: January 27, 2021, 07:45:21 PM »


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1121 on: January 27, 2021, 07:46:58 PM »
Are you under the strange impression that they all interviewed Oswald separately?

Mr Nessan is under a number of strange impressions, such as that Mr Oswald changed his story wildly--------and no one noticed him doing it. Maybe he had them hypnotized?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1122 on: January 27, 2021, 07:48:49 PM »
The Altgen's #6 photo was taken at 12:30....   Do you really believe that It took Billy Lovelady a half hour to consume one of those small bottles of Coca-Cola??   Is that being realistic??

Do you really believe that Shelley and Stanton were outside at noon?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1123 on: January 27, 2021, 07:50:47 PM »
You never answered my question: why in the hell would Mr Oswald (guilty or innocent) say something so crazily self-incriminating? And why was this last-minute bombshell confession not proclaimed to the world after his death that Sunday morning?

You never asked the question and there is no answer. Why does anyone do anything, but LHO did. Obviously his alibis were crumbling as they spoke to the coworkers. He wasn't just talking they were interacting with him.


So--------contrary to your early claim---------you don't believe Mr Oswald consistently confirmed a second floor lunchroom encounter. Because Postal Inspector Holmes, whose every word you trust, has him put it "First floor. Front entrance to the first floor".


It is not contrary to any claim.

Holmes: "when he went down stairs, a policeman questioned him as to his identification and his boss stated that "he is one of our employees" whereupon the policeman had him step aside momentarily. Following this, he simply walked out the front door of the building."

No where in the statement does he state the encounter was on the first floor. You are reading that into it. He is once again confirming the lunch room encounter with Trully and Baker and then he left the building.

Holmes: "when he went down stairs, a policeman questioned him as to his identification and his boss stated that "he is one of our employees" whereupon the policeman had him step aside momentarily. Following this, he simply walked out the front door of the building."

None of the three who were there  Truly, Baker, or  Lee Oswald ever said that Baker asked for identification.....Baker has testified that he called out to Lee...."Come Here"....  And about that time Roy Truly stated, "He's one of my employees". So Holmes isn't reporting the encounter correctly.  Also....the policeman had him step aside momentarily.

Nobody ever testified that Baker asked Lee to "step aside".....

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1124 on: January 27, 2021, 07:52:50 PM »
Why would anybody look to Harry Holmes' testimony for reliable information about anything?

"But he went downstairs, and as he went out the front, it seems as though he did have a coke with him, or he stopped at the coke machine, or somebody else was trying to get a coke, but there was a coke involved.  He mentioned something about a coke."

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1125 on: January 27, 2021, 08:09:12 PM »
Do you really believe that Shelley and Stanton were outside at noon?

Sure.....Why not?...  We don't know that it was exactly at the stoke of 12:00 O'clock, but Perhaps Sarah headed out to get a good position to view the Parade,  as soon as she was free to go to lunch, and Bill Shelley saw her and wanted to flirt a bit so he caught her at the front door and they started talking.....   Is that impossible?

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« Reply #1126 on: January 27, 2021, 08:18:02 PM »
Well, for one thing Shelley said he didn't go outside until 12:15.  Also, why would Shelley "flirt" with Sarah Stanton?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1127 on: January 27, 2021, 08:24:32 PM »
Holmes: "when he went down stairs, a policeman questioned him as to his identification and his boss stated that "he is one of our employees" whereupon the policeman had him step aside momentarily. Following this, he simply walked out the front door of the building."

None of the three who were there  Truly, Baker, or  Lee Oswald ever said that Baker asked for identification.....

'Do you work here?' would be questioning him as to his identification.

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Baker has testified that he called out to Lee...."Come Here"....  And about that time Roy Truly stated, "He's one of my employees". So Holmes isn't reporting the encounter correctly.  Also....the policeman had him step aside momentarily.

Nobody ever testified that Baker asked Lee to "step aside".....

Mr Holmes gets some things muddled