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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #856 on: January 15, 2021, 08:31:50 PM »
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I didn't post the affidavit in support of any particular POV

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #857 on: January 15, 2021, 09:39:54 PM »
I didn't post the affidavit in support of any particular POV

Never-the-less....Baker's affidavit DOES support a certain POV.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #858 on: January 15, 2021, 09:44:48 PM »
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/baker_m3.htm

MARRION BAKER AFFIDAVIT

AFFIDAVIT IN ANY FACT
THE STATE OF TEXAS
COUNTY OF DALLAS
BEFORE ME, Mary Rattan, a Notary Public in and for said County, State of Texas, on this day personally appeared M. L. Baker, Patrolman Dallas Police Department who, after being by me duly sworn, on oath deposes and says:

Friday November 22, 1963 I was riding motorcycle escort for the President of the United States. At approximately 12:30 pm I was on Houston Street and the President's car had made a left turn from Houston onto Elm Street. Just as I approached Elm Street and Houston I heard three shots. I realized those shots were rifle shots and I began to try to figure out where they came from. I decided the shots had come from the building on the northwest corner of Elm and Houston. This building is used by the Board of Education for book storage. I jumped off my motor and ran inside the building. As I entered the door I saw several people standing around. I asked these people where the stairs were. A man stepped forward and stated he was the building manager and that he would show me where the stairs were. I followed the man to the rear of the building and he said, "Let's take the elevator." The elevator was hung several floors up so we used the stairs instead. As we reached the third or fourth floor I saw a man walking away from the stairway. I called to the man and he turned around and came back toward me. The manager said, "I know that man, he works here." I then turned the man loose and went up to the top floor. The man I saw was a white man approximately 30 years old, 5'9", 165 pounds, dark hair and wearing a light brown jacket.

s/ M. L. Baker
SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN BEFORE ME THIS 22 DAY OF November A.D. 1963
/s/ Mary Rattan
Notary Public, Dallas County, Texas

As I entered.....   Would that be future.....present or past   ??   

Future....As I was about to enter....

Present....As I was entering

Past......As I entered

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #859 on: January 15, 2021, 09:52:50 PM »
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/baker_m3.htm

MARRION BAKER AFFIDAVIT

AFFIDAVIT IN ANY FACT
THE STATE OF TEXAS
COUNTY OF DALLAS
BEFORE ME, Mary Rattan, a Notary Public in and for said County, State of Texas, on this day personally appeared M. L. Baker, Patrolman Dallas Police Department who, after being by me duly sworn, on oath deposes and says:

Friday November 22, 1963 I was riding motorcycle escort for the President of the United States. At approximately 12:30 pm I was on Houston Street and the President's car had made a left turn from Houston onto Elm Street. Just as I approached Elm Street and Houston I heard three shots. I realized those shots were rifle shots and I began to try to figure out where they came from. I decided the shots had come from the building on the northwest corner of Elm and Houston. This building is used by the Board of Education for book storage. I jumped off my motor and ran inside the building. As I entered the door I saw several people standing around. I asked these people where the stairs were. A man stepped forward and stated he was the building manager and that he would show me where the stairs were. I followed the man to the rear of the building and he said, "Let's take the elevator." The elevator was hung several floors up so we used the stairs instead. As we reached the third or fourth floor I saw a man walking away from the stairway. I called to the man and he turned around and came back toward me. The manager said, "I know that man, he works here." I then turned the man loose and went up to the top floor. The man I saw was a white man approximately 30 years old, 5'9", 165 pounds, dark hair and wearing a light brown jacket.

s/ M. L. Baker
SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN BEFORE ME THIS 22 DAY OF November A.D. 1963
/s/ Mary Rattan
Notary Public, Dallas County, Texas

I asked these people where the stairs were. A man stepped forward and stated he was the building manager and that he would show me where the stairs were.

There was a sign in the foyer at the bottom of the stairs, with an arrow that pointed to the stairs..... Those stairs only went to the second floor....But How did Baker know that?...And HOW did Truly know that Baker wanted to go to the roof of the TSBD.  ???

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #860 on: January 15, 2021, 10:44:39 PM »
I asked these people where the stairs were. A man stepped forward and stated he was the building manager and that he would show me where the stairs were.

There was a sign in the foyer at the bottom of the stairs, with an arrow that pointed to the stairs..... Those stairs only went to the second floor....But How did Baker know that?...And HOW did Truly know that Baker wanted to go to the roof of the TSBD.  ???

It's really very simple..........................

The afternoon of the assassination, four stories are being told:
-----------Mr Oswald visited the second floor lunchroom before the P. Parade, then went down to the first floor and then went out to watch the P. Parade
-----------Just after the shooting, Mr Oswald was stopped by an officer at the front entrance of the building but cleared by the building manager
-----------Just after the shooting, Mr Oswald was seen in a (small) storage room on the first floor
-----------Officer Baker encountered a man walking away from the stairway on the third or fourth floor

No one is talking about a lunchroom encounter----------because it hasn't been invented yet.
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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #861 on: January 15, 2021, 10:57:59 PM »

No one is talking about a lunchroom encounter----------because it hasn't been invented yet.

When is it invented and who invents it?
Who is involved in this fake hoax you keep waffling on about?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #862 on: January 15, 2021, 11:07:53 PM »
Mr. BAKER - On the first floor there were two men. As we came through the main doorway to the elevators, I remember as we tried to get on the elevators I remember two men, one was sitting on this side and another one between 20 or 30 feet away from us looking at us.
Mr. DULLES - Were they white men?
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir.


Who on earth were these two white men?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #863 on: January 15, 2021, 11:13:05 PM »
Mr. BAKER - On the first floor there were two men. As we came through the main doorway to the elevators, I remember as we tried to get on the elevators I remember two men, one was sitting on this side and another one between 20 or 30 feet away from us looking at us.
Mr. DULLES - Were they white men?
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir.


Who on earth were these two white men?

Come on Alan. You're constantly waffling on about the made up lunchroom encounter.

Who made it up?
When did they make it up?
Who was involved?

If you don't have a clue just say so.
That will suffice as an answer.