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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #2632 on: September 19, 2023, 11:46:19 AM »
Pre-motorcade:


Cf this fellow:



Cf this fellow:



Cf this fellow:



Cf this fellow in BLUE:



Mr. BLUE's face ain't there in the version of Altgens shown to the American public by Mr. Walter Cronkite:

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« Reply #2633 on: September 19, 2023, 03:27:48 PM »

I tried to post this on the Barnes & Noble website as a book review for "Prayer Man More Than A Fuzzy Picture" but it went to moderator cue and was never posted...


Stubborn Promotion Of An Already-Debunked Theory

The author B K has a website entitled "Prayer Man" where he tries to show that a shadowy figure in the Texas School Book Depository front entrance during the assassination was Lee Harvey Oswald and therefore exonerated him. That figure was being called "Prayer Man" because his hands were up in front of him in a praying posture in the NBC newsreel films in which he was seen. This claim generated a lot of discussion on Kennedy Assassination websites that led to heated debate. In 2016 photo expert Chris Davidson applied digital enhancement technology to the NBC newsreel film taken by Dave Wiegman and brought out a female face on Prayer Man ending the issue. Indeed, it was K's own research that then determined the woman whose face was seen on Prayer Man was School Book Depository secretary Sarah Stanton. I managed to contact Stanton's grand-daughter and she confirmed the woman being called "Prayer Man" was indeed her grandmother Sarah. I myself am the main researcher who debunked the theory contained in this book. Ironically, it was Mr K's very own extensive research and material that allowed me to do so. The opaque image seen on the cover of this book is one of the less clear frames from the Wiegman newsreel film. What Mr K doesn't inform the public of is the fact Chris Davidson's digital enhancement of that same film, that brought out Sarah Stanton's face on Prayer Man, is a much better representation of the imagery. Mr K deliberately did not use Davidson's enhancement for his book cover because Davidson's enhancement made it clear that Prayer Man was a woman whom further research proved to be Depository employee Sarah Stanton. In their zeal to exonerate Oswald K and S M failed to do a height analysis that showed Prayer Man was only 5 foot 4...Not only was Oswald 5 foot 9 but Stanton's grand-daughter told me Sarah was 5 foot 4. So buyer beware. I would, however, recommend this book as a good case study in hoax theories and the mental processes that produce them and continue to defend them even when refuted. Group psychology and cognitive dissonace. Oh, by the way, Prayer Man has his hands in a praying position because it is Sarah Stanton holding her purse up in front of her face in a female posture.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2634 on: September 19, 2023, 08:04:45 PM »
Cf this fellow in BLUE:



Mr. BLUE's face ain't there in the version of Altgens shown to the American public by Mr. Walter Cronkite:



Friends, it's an inconvenient fact, but there is unmistakeable BLUE showing in FRONT of Mr. Lovelady in the Bell doorway frames:



Lengthier, wider clip---------------watch that blue come into view:





That blue ain't foliage.................. and it sure as heck ain't coming from the clothing of this fellow everyone assumes to be Mr. Carl Edward Jones:

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« Reply #2635 on: September 21, 2023, 11:31:14 AM »
Well!

It's an extraordinary thing, but not a SINGLE person (outside the two known fabulators, Messrs. Shelley & Lovelady) saw Mr. Truly and Officer Baker go in the front entrance TOGETHER. We have Mr. Molina remembering Mr. Truly's entrance, and Mrs. Pauline Sanders remembering Officer Baker's. And that's it.

Here's what I think may have happened: they went in SEPARATELY. Mr. Truly went in BEFORE Officer Baker, who spent some time by the mailboxes speaking with the lady about the paper sack & banner.

This would explain, of course, how Ms. Vicki Adams and Ms. Sandra Styles could have come down the rear stairway without seeing Officer Baker and Mr. Truly

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« Reply #2636 on: September 22, 2023, 10:30:23 PM »

Hi Brian, I hope that you are doing well! Ike Altgens' camera was unable to catch the darkened Prayer Man position because he was way down past Mary Moorman. Sincerely yours, Michael


Wrong...

Altgens couldn't photograph Prayer Man because the west wall of the portal was blocking him, as can clearly been seen in Altgens 6...

Sarah Stanton said she could not see the limousine at the time of the shots and sure enough the west wall blocks Prayer Man's view at the time of the shots...

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« Reply #2637 on: September 23, 2023, 02:01:05 AM »
Well the other black guy named Lewis seems to have fuzzy memory of where he was on the steps of the TSBD.

If Lewis had taken off that dark  reddish brown jacket ( which he had  on when he was standing next to the BIG Carl Jones in the off white shirt with shirt pocket bulging)then IDK if the dark blue shirt would register as that light a bluish color or not.

Could it be Lewis who had taken off his reddish brown jacket as the man waving some kind of red something in the foreground of Towner film?

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« Reply #2638 on: September 23, 2023, 10:38:22 AM »
Well the other black guy named Lewis seems to have fuzzy memory of where he was on the steps of the TSBD.

If Lewis had taken off that dark  reddish brown jacket ( which he had  on when he was standing next to the BIG Carl Jones in the off white shirt with shirt pocket bulging)then IDK if the dark blue shirt would register as that light a bluish color or not.

Could it be Lewis who had taken off his reddish brown jacket as the man waving some kind of red something in the foreground of Towner film?

I had considered that myself, Mr. Mason. But in Hughes, which shows the doorway just before Towner, we see the man in blue in front of Mr. Oswald raise his left arm to wave--------------and his hand appears to be empty. If he were waving his cardigan-jacket, it would surely be showing up here.............


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« Reply #2639 on: September 23, 2023, 07:51:20 PM »
Friends, let's leave aside for a moment the identity of the man in blue and focus on a different question:

What do we see when the man in blue's arm is raised?



In that very small area, ABOVE A CERTAIN HEIGHT and WITHIN A NARROW FRAME, we see diagonal blue (man in blue's raised sleeve) + white (Red Shirt Man's tshirt).

The diagonal blue of the raised arm is covering the portion of the red of Red Shirt Man's red shirt directly behind it. Above and below, however, we see red shirt.

Could this very small area of DIAGONAL BLUE + TSHIRT WHITE ONLY be what these few Bell frames are actually showing? Leaves are covering the portion of red shirt above and below, so we're ONLY seeing diagonal blue + white--------------



[Note: For this to work, this rapidly downward movement-------------



-------------would need to be from a branch belonging to the tree.]

Now! Could the full sequence of Bell doorway frames be showing us--------------BEFORE Mr. Lovelady rises to his feet and the UPPER leaves clear-------------little glimpses of a portion of Mr. Oswald's red shirt that is NOT covered by the blue sleeve but is MOST OF THE TIME covered by the LOWER foliage? Look closely-----when you see what I'm talking about it, it will startle you:



Such that, when the foliage clears nicely towards the end of this sequence, we are getting a deceptive admixture of Mr. Oswald's shirt and Mr. Lovelady's shirt:



If so, then the fact that Mr. Lovelady's little eastwards lean after he has risen to his feet COINCIDES with the clearing of the foliage only enhances the illusion that the red belongs entirely to Mr. Lovelady's shirt.

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If anyone can offer a plausible alternative explanation for the curious fact that Mr. Lovelady emerges from BEHIND the colors BLUE and WHITE, I'm all ears  Thumb1:
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