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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2416 on: June 11, 2023, 03:47:54 PM »
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Someone saw that long paper bag in that pile of items/trash there on the east side of the entrance steps ( which is a curiosity itself)

The BIG curiosity here, Mr. Mason, is that a woman (whoever she be) evidently saw something so odd or troubling related to that bag that her response to the shooting was to go over to the mailboxes, pick the bag up and attract the attention of a police officer.

Who left that bag there? I believe that it was Mr. Oswald, and that it contained the flag he had just waved at Pres. Kennedy

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2417 on: June 11, 2023, 03:50:47 PM »
Again two questions press:

QI. ONE flag or TWO flags?




Q2. If two flags, where is the second one positioned--------in the doorway, or out on the footpath (held by someone standing alone, well north of the line of spectators)?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2418 on: June 11, 2023, 03:57:06 PM »
Other than that, the only remaining possibility would seem to be that this in Bell------



-------is a portion of this in Towner-------



--------rather than what I've always assumed it to be, namely the legs of a woman standing on the east side of the doorway.

Looking closely at Bell, it honestly just seems to be the legs of a woman standing on the east side of the doorway:



Which would mean..............

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2419 on: June 11, 2023, 04:00:16 PM »
.................IF (as seems the case IMO) these are two flags rather than one, THEN

a) We have two people on the west side of the doorway, each waving a flag



b) One of these people is Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald; the other is Mr. Billy Nolan Lovelady

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2420 on: June 11, 2023, 04:09:05 PM »
b) One of these people is Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald; the other is Mr. Billy Nolan Lovelady

The white & blue area to the left (i.e. our left) of Mr. Lovelady here in Bell is actually two flags, one slightly in front of the other. The downwards-to-the-east motion of the lower flag (which is in front) is in sync with the tug of Mr. Lovelady's left hand, which is holding the flag's staff



The white and blue above this flag is from Mr. Oswald's flag (Mr. Oswald still standing west of Mr. Lovelady)
« Last Edit: June 11, 2023, 04:42:40 PM by Alan Ford »

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2421 on: June 11, 2023, 04:20:22 PM »
Mr. Lovelady has had a fake shadow added down his right side in Wiegman to hide the flag, which he is still holding to his right (i.e. west). Because Altgens limits how much Mr. Lovelady can credibly be shadowed, the shadow can only go so far. A tiny portion of the flag manages to show up in the early frames:



In the later frames, a more drastically encroaching shadow hides all of Mr. Lovelady's flag (though perhaps not its horizontally-held-in-the-left-hand staff):

« Last Edit: June 11, 2023, 04:24:57 PM by Alan Ford »

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2422 on: June 11, 2023, 04:35:47 PM »
Ca. 30 secs later, and Darnell gives us a glimpse of Mr. Lovelady's flag, whose staff he still holds in his left hand:



Mr. Oswald is no longer on the steps. He has returned his flag to the paper bag, which he has dumped out by the mailboxes-----------------thereby arousing the suspicions of a certain woman-----------------who in turn attracts the attention of Officer Baker:




Where is Mr. Oswald now? Perhaps he is the reason why the front door is moving in Darnell. And perhaps he is seconds away from being confronted by Officer Baker (who has his description from the woman holding the bag) in the front-of-building small storage room:



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2423 on: June 11, 2023, 04:40:40 PM »
No wonder Mr. Lovelady had to tell so many lies afterwards! He had been on the same team as Mr. Oswald-------which (as far as they had been given to understand) was Team Kennedy.

Pres. Kennedy was told to watch out for flags being waved in the Depository doorway by two guys in red shirts. This would tell him that all was in place on the sixth floor. At his signal (a brush of the hand across the hair), the staged false-flag provocation would proceed as planned.

Little did Messrs. Kennedy, Lovelady or Oswald know that the off-books staged incident had been infiltrated and turned into a lethal ambush.

There is a lot of tragedy packed into these frames: