Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )


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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1976 on: September 28, 2022, 01:48:22 AM »
Any possibility that this white ring effect in this newer Darnell  version of PM is due to the white  T-shirt showing thru a brown shirt not fully buttoned at the neck?

I  asked the ? Why the conspirators didn’t blacken out PM and answered my own ? by suggesting that at the time the image was so obscured already they didn’t think it was any possible proof of Oswald out front.

Since Mr. Ford as pointed out , the shadow anomaly on Lovelady has not yet been adequately explained (nor replicated via experiment) and so as CTs :) we of course suspect purposeful obfuscation of this area for some reason.

I thought we had arrived at the CT reason for  the anomalous shadow on Lovelady  due to a necessity to hide the right ARM of Lovelady because his sleeves were not rolled up.

This was supposedly  to cover for the early quick alteration of the Altgens photo 6 (Cronkite version) trying to make it appear that a raised forearm belonged to Lewis, the black man at the bottom of the steps NW side. The shirt sleeve appears rolled up.

However after this quick alteration, they realized they made a glaring mistake , because Lewis sleeve was NOT rolled up AND there was still the anomaly of a horizontal dark object ( looking much like a bottle )

So the 2nd correction to Altgens photo was to make the raised arm and the dark horizontal slash (bottle) disappear entirely by graphing in texture of Loveladys shirt sleeve so as to make it appear as Loveladys right arm .

But the conspirators made one more error which is that Loveladys arm has no hand at the end of the shirt sleeve AND the shirt sleeve appears to be extend IN FRONT of part of Lewis face which is another anomaly because Lovelady was BEHIND Lewis several desk steps back.

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Re. PrayerMan in Darnell:

The scoop line of the upper garment just doesn't, in my opinion, look like it could realistically be yielded by a man's shirt open a couple of buttons. Too round.

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Re. Altgens/Wiegman:

When I first noticed this in the version of Altgens shown by Mr. Cronkite the evening of the assassination----------



-----------I tried to relate it to the PrayerMan issue. I was troubled by the fact that, for Altgens to be showing PrayerMan/LHO, then PrayerMan/LHO must have MOVED position in a VERY short time (i.e. the time difference between Altgens & Wiegman). Messy!

But what if there is NO RELATION between PrayerMan-in-Wiegman and what the Cronkite version of Altgens shows? What if the figure (apparently) holding the bottle in Altgens is simply a DIFFERENT PERSON to PrayerMan? It would certainly relieve us of the task of positing a SUDDEN and QUICK movement back up the steps of the figure in Altgens.

What seals the deal for me is that the figure we see in the Cronkite Altgens is in THE SELFSAME SPOT covered by the impossible shadow IN WIEGMAN:



No coincidence IMO!

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1976 on: September 28, 2022, 01:48:22 AM »


Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1977 on: September 28, 2022, 03:56:06 AM »
Mr.Ford, if your new proposition is correct that the Cronkite version of Altgens no.6 photo is a person with  arm raised holding a bottle in hand who is standing at the exact location where the shadow anomaly on Lovelady occurs in the Weigman film

Then that person either must be Oswald  or that  person resembled Oswald so much that the conspirators were compelled to take the risk they did to alter both Altgens photo and Weigman film.

How BW Frazier etc on those steps  could have missed seeing Oswald standing IN FRONT of them is the problem

And if the explanation is that  people were compelled by  sone form of psychological coercion to remain silent, then that’ is extremely troublesome to consider THEY MIGHT STILL be using this form of coercion today to keep people silent about other horrendous dees done by the global deep state.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1978 on: September 29, 2022, 01:42:03 AM »
Once Mr Lovelady's body is out of the frame, those applying the shadow get sloppy:



Some disturbance is happening here

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1979 on: September 30, 2022, 01:50:42 AM »
The car aerial disappears only when it's 'in front of' the Magic Lovelady Shadow. Oops!

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1980 on: September 30, 2022, 02:09:29 AM »
From the Shelley FBI report 3/18/64:



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Mrs Pauline Sanders:


If PrayerMan is her, then that's surprising but not in itself v. interesting in terms of the case.

If PrayerMan is not her, then whoever PrayerMan is would be both surprising AND v. interesting in terms of the case!

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1981 on: October 02, 2022, 03:39:22 AM »
If PM is a woman then she must be either 5’2” standing on the landing level or she is 5’9” standing one step down from the entrance landing level.

I’m not yet convinced that the “enhanced” version of Darnell discounts the possibility that earlier images of PM  appears to indicate a V shaped white space indicative of a t-shirt exposed by a loosely worn brown shirt such as Oswald wore.

I also notice clear photos of Oswald when he was in handcuffs that indicate the “roundness”of his white T-shirt seen thru his open brown shirt.

I would like to see some experiment with a camera like Darnell’s, to record a male 5’9” height and 135 lb weight with an open brown shirt and white t-shirt like Oswald’s standing at PM location one step down from the landing.

Then repeat the experiment with a woman 5’9” /135 lb wearing some similar dress to the TSBD office women employees

High res Scan both of these experimental replication films frames to see if one or the other  (or both) produce a similar white ring effect to recent newer Darnell scans presented that have cast doubt on the PM=Oswald theory.

In the mean time, since there does not appear to be a suitable female TSBD employee known to be only 5’2” height , then the probability is that if PM is a woman she must be 5’9” standing one step down from the top landing level.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1981 on: October 02, 2022, 03:39:22 AM »


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1982 on: October 02, 2022, 01:54:40 PM »
I’m not yet convinced that the “enhanced” version of Darnell discounts the possibility that earlier images of PM  appears to indicate a V shaped white space indicative of a t-shirt exposed by a loosely worn brown shirt such as Oswald wore.

I also notice clear photos of Oswald when he was in handcuffs that indicate the “roundness”of his white T-shirt seen thru his open brown shirt.

The chief problem is not the white area but the shape of the cutoff area:



V. hard to see a man's open shirt giving this line.

Then again, here's a tracing of a different frame made by Mr Hackerott at the Sixth Floor Museum:



More V-shaped......

Unless the V-shape-VS-scoop-line inconsistency comes down to a slight change in the height of the hand(s)-----------i.e. PM is holding something that gives the illusion in some frames of a scoop line?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1983 on: October 03, 2022, 07:52:38 PM »
Mrs Pauline Sanders:


If PrayerMan is her, then that's surprising but not in itself v. interesting in terms of the case.

If PrayerMan is not her, then whoever PrayerMan is would be both surprising AND v. interesting in terms of the case!

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I believe that Prayer person was Pauline Sanders. Back in 2017 I have found picture of her with her nephew on Facebook with the same right arm position but I have lost that picture in my old laptop. Trying to find it on Facebook again but no success. I have lost the track of her nephew name and where exactly I have made a connection (Find a grave or Ancestry) but I am more than sure it was Pauline Sanders holding a white coffee cup.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1983 on: October 03, 2022, 07:52:38 PM »


 

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