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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1936 on: September 15, 2022, 11:58:25 PM »
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'The Darnell frame Ford has posted has been altered!'

Really? Then explain how the frame I've posted goes WIDER than previously posted frames. The man the green arrow marks out is NOT in ANY previously seen versions! This therefore CANNOT be an altered version of ANY Darnell frame previously in the public sphere----------it contains new visual information!

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1937 on: September 16, 2022, 06:08:20 AM »
If you  abandon the Oswald = PM theory, then you will have to return to an earlier theory that there was SOMEONE who resembled Oswald on the front steps whom the conspirators at FIRST thought was Oswald, but whom later found out the person was not Oswald.

Otherwise, if the Lovelady shadow anomaly is due to the necessity to blot out Oswald then would the conspirators have let Lovelady and Frazier live knowing these 2witnesses no doubt had to have seen Oswald? Even if they remained silent, could the conspirators risk them breaking their silence? 


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1938 on: September 17, 2022, 12:04:39 AM »
If you  abandon the Oswald = PM theory, then you will have to return to an earlier theory that there was SOMEONE who resembled Oswald on the front steps whom the conspirators at FIRST thought was Oswald, but whom later found out the person was not Oswald.

Otherwise, if the Lovelady shadow anomaly is due to the necessity to blot out Oswald then would the conspirators have let Lovelady and Frazier live knowing these 2witnesses no doubt had to have seen Oswald? Even if they remained silent, could the conspirators risk them breaking their silence?

Everything--------on my scenario----------flowed from the simple fact that, within a very few hours of the assassination, the 'investigating' authorities knew that Mr. Oswald was up in the building's front entrance for the assassination.

They had to act fast, and they did, cobbling together a story they HOPED but could not be CERTAIN would hold over time.

They COULD have put 'I was on the sixth floor' in Mr. Oswald's mouth in the interrogation reports, but DIDN'T... because they KNEW that PROOF (photographic or otherwise) might yet emerge that he was in fact in the doorway at the time of the shooting.

They COULD have had Officer Baker/Mr. Truly encounter Mr. Oswald on, say, the fifth floor with a rifle in his hand, but DIDN'T... because they KNEW that PROOF (photographic or otherwise) might yet emerge that he was in fact in the doorway at the time of the shooting.

They COULD have gotten a controlled witness (or three!) to securely ID Mr. Oswald as the sixth-floor shooter, but DIDN'T... because they KNEW that PROOF (photographic or otherwise) might yet emerge that he was in fact in the doorway at the time of the shooting.

They COULD have faked up a photo of Mr. Oswald firing from the sixth-floor window, but DIDN'T... because they KNEW that PROOF (photographic or otherwise) might yet emerge that he was in fact in the doorway at the time of the shooting.

They COULD have faked the results of the paraffin test on Mr. Oswald's cheek, but DIDN'T... because they KNEW that PROOF (photographic or otherwise) might yet emerge that he was in fact in the doorway at the time of the shooting.

A story had to be created that catered to TWO different scenarios:
a) Mr. Oswald as sixth-floor shooter
b) Mr. Oswald as in the doorway

Enter: second-floor lunchroom story--------------a story designed to be physically possible on both scenarios.

As for killing Mr. Frazier and/or Mr. Lovelady, that would have been crazy extreme. Much better to satisfy themselves, as they evidently did, that neither of those two (or indeed Mr. Shelley) would talk (after having some pressure applied).

Believe you me, Mr. Mason, that ridiculous shadow down Mr. Lovelady, coupled with what we now know to have been Mr. Oswald's own (suppressed) claim that he "went outside to watch P. Parade", constitutes the true Rosetta Stone of this phase of the case.

The Prayer Man folks got SO much right, only they got the exact location of Mr. Oswald in that doorway wrong. But we certainly wouldn't be where we are now without their fine work......................

IMHO!

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1938 on: September 17, 2022, 12:04:39 AM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1939 on: September 17, 2022, 12:21:45 AM »
For further clarification!

I now believe that

a) Prayer 'Man' is most likely NOT Mr Oswald but possibly one of the following:
-Miss Carolyn Arnold
-Mrs Pauline Sanders
-Mrs Jeraldean Reid


Whoever Prayer 'Man' is, btw, they are NOT Ms. Sarah Stanton. That piece of silliness was ruled out many many moons ago when a contemporaneous photograph of Ms. Stanton was published to researchers!

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1940 on: September 17, 2022, 03:15:01 PM »
Well!

As regular tuners-in to this station will know, I believe that there may be a simple but bombshell explanation for Mr Billy Lovelady and Mr Bill Shelley's having lied and lied and lied about their post-assassination movements:

The man who accompanied Mr. Shelley down to the edge of the railroad yard and stood around with him for several minutes watching the excitement, before reentering the Depository via the west door, was not Mr. Lovelady but Mr. Oswald.

On this scenario, Mr. Oswald has------like Mr. Shelley------already left the entrance by the time of Darnell.

He MAY POSSIBLY even be the fellow passing out Mr. Danny Arce here in the Couch film:



Skeptic: 'Nah, too bulky for Oswald!'

Moi: 'Well, we don't KNOW what upper garment Mr. Oswald was wearing at the time of the assassination. It may have been just the white tshirt. It may have been his reddish-brown shirt (NOT the arrest shirt!) over the white tshirt. Or! It may have been the gray FLANNEL ('wool-looking') JACKET which Mr. Buell Wesley Frazier recalled seeing him wear to work that morning.'

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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« Reply #1941 on: September 17, 2022, 03:23:44 PM »
Skeptic/Warren Gullible/Lunchroom Gullible: 'But Oswald told a reporter he was inside the building at the time of the shooting!'

Moi: 'Nope, he said he was in the building at the time.'

Skeptic/Warren Gullible/Lunchroom Gullible: 'Okay, but that rules out his being in the doorway!'

Moi: 'Nope----------the enclosed front part of the building is still part of the building. Mr. Oswald went outside to watch the P. Parade, but he did not leave the actual building and go out onto the street.'

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1942 on: September 17, 2022, 03:29:05 PM »
Skeptic/Warren Gullible/Lunchroom Gullible: 'Ha ha! There is zero evidence of Oswald in the doorway!'

Moi: 'There is zero evidence that the shadow down Mr. Billy Lovelady in Wiegman has a natural explanation.'

Skeptic/Warren Gullible/Lunchroom Gullible: 'So what? There is still zero evidence of Oswald in the doorway!'

Moi: 'The fact that a fake shadow has been added down Mr. Lovelady is evidence that something in that doorway is being hidden.'

Skeptic/Warren Gullible/Lunchroom Gullible: 'Prove it's Oswald!'

Moi: 'Offer us an alternative explanation for why the 'investigating' authorities would have felt the need to put a fake shadow down Mr. Lovelady.'

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1943 on: September 17, 2022, 11:00:37 PM »
Everything--------on my scenario----------flowed from the simple fact that, within a very few hours of the assassination, the 'investigating' authorities knew that Mr. Oswald was up in the building's front entrance for the assassination.

They had to act fast, and they did, cobbling together a story they HOPED but could not be CERTAIN would hold over time.

They COULD have put 'I was on the sixth floor' in Mr. Oswald's mouth in the interrogation reports, but DIDN'T... because they KNEW that PROOF (photographic or otherwise) might yet emerge that he was in fact in the doorway at the time of the shooting.

They COULD have had Officer Baker/Mr. Truly encounter Mr. Oswald on, say, the fifth floor with a rifle in his hand, but DIDN'T... because they KNEW that PROOF (photographic or otherwise) might yet emerge that he was in fact in the doorway at the time of the shooting.

They COULD have gotten a controlled witness (or three!) to securely ID Mr. Oswald as the sixth-floor shooter, but DIDN'T... because they KNEW that PROOF (photographic or otherwise) might yet emerge that he was in fact in the doorway at the time of the shooting.

They COULD have faked up a photo of Mr. Oswald firing from the sixth-floor window, but DIDN'T... because they KNEW that PROOF (photographic or otherwise) might yet emerge that he was in fact in the doorway at the time of the shooting.

They COULD have faked the results of the paraffin test on Mr. Oswald's cheek, but DIDN'T... because they KNEW that PROOF (photographic or otherwise) might yet emerge that he was in fact in the doorway at the time of the shooting.

A story had to be created that catered to TWO different scenarios:
a) Mr. Oswald as sixth-floor shooter
b) Mr. Oswald as in the doorway

Enter: second-floor lunchroom story--------------a story designed to be physically possible on both scenarios.

Does anyone believe that Mr. Oswald, in interrogation, was not asked where EXACTLY he was at the time of the assassination?

It's a given that he was, right?

Well.......... This went one of four ways:

a) Mr. Oswald gave a specific location (e.g. doorway; domino room; second-floor lunchroom; upper floor)

b) Mr. Oswald refused to give a specific location

c) Mr. Oswald said he couldn't give a specific location because he did not hear any shots and so did not know for sure when the shooting took place

d) Mr. Oswald gave a specific location, but then changed his story under further interrogation.

RE. a) above: Not ONE of the interrogation reports sees fit to tell us SPECIFICALLY where Mr. Oswald said he was

RE. b) above: Not ONE of the interrogation reports sees fit to tell us that Mr. Oswald REFUSED to give a specific location

RE. c) above: Not ONE of the interrogation reports sees fit to tell us that Mr. Oswald said he COULD NOT speak to his specific location

RE. d) above: Not ONE of the interrogation reports sees fit to tell us that Mr. Oswald CHANGED his claimed location under further interrogation.

It's very simple: Mr. Oswald claimed he was out on the front steps to watch the P. Parade. Because this claim was known to be true, it COULD NOT be reflected in the official interrogation reports. However, precisely BECAUSE it was known to be true, no OTHER claimed specific location could be put in Mr. Oswald's mouth.

Hence the VERY WEIRD silence of the official interrogation reports on Mr. Oswald's answer to the single most important question put to him in all the interrogations: Where were you when the shooting happened?

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