Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1764 on: September 22, 2021, 03:18:03 AM »
Other than Fritz, I can't really see anyone else who fits the bill.

Well one in a key position is enough ....But have you ever checked out Gerald Hill?

Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1765 on: September 22, 2021, 03:36:20 AM »
Well one in a key position is enough ....But have you ever checked out Gerald Hill?

My definition of "conspirator" is someone who knew what was going to happen that day,
Hill doesn't fit the bill for that.
But you are quite correct, one in a key position is enough.

Offline Donald Roberdeau

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1766 on: September 22, 2021, 10:40:39 AM »
I think someone needs to be getting in touch with Mr Roberdeau.

 .... Good Day Dan.... Perhaps someone was mis-identifying that the "Thornton" road sign on an 11-22-63 map was the "Stemmons" road sign. The closest edge of the "Thornton" sign, to the westernmost side of the TSBD front door entrance steps, was a bit over 126 feet, = 42 yards. (Elm Street was nearly exactly 40' wide)

Best Regards in Research, Don

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1767 on: September 22, 2021, 06:21:03 PM »
.... Good Day Dan.... Perhaps someone was mis-identifying that the "Thornton" road sign on an 11-22-63 map was the "Stemmons" road sign. The closest edge of the "Thornton" sign, to the westernmost side of the TSBD front door entrance steps, was a bit over 126 feet, = 42 yards. (Elm Street was nearly exactly 40' wide)

Best Regards in Research, Don

Hi Don,

This was from quite a while ago.
As I remember I had a couple of schematic drawings of Dealey Plaza that agreed with each other in the scale they were using but disagreed with your map.
If I remember correctly it turned out these schematic drawings were wrong and your map was right.

Is there a latest update for your map and, out of interest, do you agree with the identification of the four ladies standing together wearing head scarves as Calvery, Hicks, Reed and Westbrook?

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1768 on: September 22, 2021, 09:38:32 PM »
Well one in a key position is enough ....But have you ever checked out Gerald Hill?
W R Westbrook?....Kenneth Croy?....Harry Olsen?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1769 on: September 22, 2021, 11:56:01 PM »
Question!

Why is Mr Bill Shelley's name handwritten at the top of an interrogation report that doesn't once mention his name?


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1770 on: September 24, 2021, 12:39:06 AM »
Question!

Why is Mr Bill Shelley's name handwritten at the top of an interrogation report that doesn't once mention his name?



Now!

The above interrogation report makes no mention of Mr Shelley. However, Mr Shelley's name is handwritten in, indicating that he is in some IMPORTANT way relevant to things said in Mr Oswald's first interrogation session.

Well! The above report is followed up with a report on the SAME interrogation session only this time the report is written by Agent BOOKHOUT alone-----------------it is not a JOINT report, like with the first report.

However! As we discovered in 2019, Agent HOSTY---------co-author of the JOINT report above----------ALSO wrote a SOLO report, BEFORE Agent Hosty did, on that SAME first interrogation. Agent Hosty's original report records with perfect clarity that Mr Oswald stated that he
--------visited the second-floor lunchroom for a Coke BEFORE the P. Parade (NO mention of any officer-'n'-Truly encounter there!)
--------then went downstairs to one to eat his lunch
--------"Then went outside to watch P. Parade"

Mr Oswald, in that first interrogation session, named Mr Shelley (his supervisor, whom he had seen at City Hall shortly before his interrogation) as one of the people he was near as he watched the P. Parade and heard the shots. He can have fully expected Mr Shelley to confirm his presence on the steps.

Unlike in the JOINT interrogation report (by Agents Bookhout & Hosty), the Bookhout SOLO report DOES mention Mr Shelley, and in a way that makes his being named by Mr Oswald SAFE, i.e. in a way that reinforces the fake new timeframe that has been given to Mr Oswald's claims:
--------visited the second-floor lunchroom for a Coke DURING WHICH VISIT a cop came in with Mr Truly
--------then went downstairs to eat lunch
--------Then went outside and stood around with Mr Shelley, who indicated work would not be resumed for the rest of the day

OSWALD stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca–cola from the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. MR. TRULY was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. OSWALD stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employees’ lunch room. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman BILL SHELLEY, and thereafter went home.

This is the switcheroo, folks:
Then went outside to watch P. Parade (Hosty solo report)-------------------->Then went outside several minutes after the P. Parade (Bookhout solo report)


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