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Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1176 on: February 02, 2021, 12:59:41 AM »
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If you hold a 1963 Dr.Pepper bottle at the base of the bottle as (IMO) PM appears to be doing, then the upper half of the solid white oval shaped Dr. Pepper bottle will be visible.

Therefore I’m returning to my early speculation that the white of that label caused the stark contrast of dark and light that resulted in the white being somewhat bright as the negative was processed.

One has to wonder about the random probability of the Dr. Pepper bottle that appears in one photo of the front entrance steps within an hour approx post shots fired.

A. It’s a Dr. Pepper bottle with the solid white oval shaped label.
B. It’s left right at very spot on the front steps next to the west wall and on step just below the top landing
where our speculative Oswald PM was located in the Weigman film
C. Oswalds favorite soda was Dr. Pepper

Now add in the coincidence of PM raising an white object to mouth level

Using his RIGHT exposed fore arm

And this coincidence of this being the ONLY person at the entrance seen in Wiegman film with such object raised

And then 1st print Altgens photo in the early newspapers within approx an hour post shots. And amazingly This anomaly of bare fore arm upraised with bottle in the hand, Is consistently reprinted matching an Altgens photo print that Walter Cronkite has acquired and shows on TV show.

HOW THE HECK DID WE ( the public over 50 years) COMPLETELY FAIL to see this truly amazing image detail and the amazing coincidence of Oswald being the ONLY Possible other person with a soda bottle (other than Lovelady) on the front steps of TSBD???

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1176 on: February 02, 2021, 12:59:41 AM »


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1177 on: February 02, 2021, 01:11:43 AM »
One has to wonder about the random probability of the Dr. Pepper bottle that appears in one photo of the front entrance steps within an hour approx post shots fired.

Not a random probablity



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C. Oswalds favorite soda was Dr. Pepper

He stated clearly that he bought a Coca-Cola for his lunch before the P. Parade

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HOW THE HECK DID WE ( the public over 50 years) COMPLETELY FAIL to see this truly amazing image detail and the amazing coincidence of Oswald being the ONLY Possible other person with a soda bottle (other than Lovelady) on the front steps of TSBD???

Because folks were obsessing over the wrong question------------'Is that Lovelady or LHO in Altgens?'
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1178 on: February 02, 2021, 01:49:13 AM »
Mr. Ford, that Dr. Pepper bottle in the hand of the cop is Not likely THE bottle in the photo on TSBD step were PM was standing, as that label is NOT the solid oval label as the bottle on steps appears imo to have

Would this cop litter the front of the TSBD at this time?

Does this cop have any statement on record of having left this Dr.Pepper bottle on the front steps?

What’s the probability of a cop so impeccably neat in his own
Appearance littering in public view AND also managing to randomly pick the near exact spot on the steps that PM was at, to leave the bottle?

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1178 on: February 02, 2021, 01:49:13 AM »


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1179 on: February 02, 2021, 10:00:18 AM »
Mr Oswald claimed that, just before he left the building, a credential-carrying crewcut man came up to him looking for a telephone, and Mr Oswald pointed him the way to the nearest one.

If Mr Oswald was telling the truth about this (and Mr Pierce Allman seems to confirm it), then we have Mr Oswald at the front entrance shortly after the shooting apparently noticed by not a single co-worker. And why would anyone take particular notice of him? He was just another manual worker.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1180 on: February 02, 2021, 11:41:06 AM »
Mr Oswald claimed that, just before he left the building, a credential-carrying crewcut man came up to him looking for a telephone, and Mr Oswald pointed him the way to the nearest one.

If Mr Oswald was telling the truth about this (and Mr Pierce Allman seems to confirm it), then we have Mr Oswald at the front entrance shortly after the shooting apparently noticed by not a single co-worker. And why would anyone take particular notice of him? He was just another manual worker.

I never have doubted that Lee was telling the truth about this point.     I'm a bit befuddled about why you think it's such a big deal.  If the man in the photos is Lee Oswald ( and I believe that's is a very real possibility) then you have shown real evidence that Mrs Reid was dead wrong in saying that Lee didn't have his outer shirt on and was wearing a white T shirt when he departed.....    But beyond that I'm at a loss to see what you're yelling about.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1181 on: February 02, 2021, 02:57:05 PM »
I never have doubted that Lee was telling the truth about this point.     I'm a bit befuddled about why you think it's such a big deal.

It's not a big deal that folks generally didn't notice Mr Oswald at the front entrance. That's the point.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1182 on: February 02, 2021, 03:34:42 PM »
Do you think that Wesley Buell Frazier would have noticed him as they were friends/acquaintances or do you think he was pressurised to lie in his testimony?

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1183 on: February 02, 2021, 06:22:14 PM »
Do you think that Wesley Buell Frazier would have noticed him as they were friends/acquaintances or do you think he was pressurised to lie in his testimony?

Yes to both!