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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1072 on: January 24, 2021, 03:19:06 PM »
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Says Walt who thought Fritz took notes during the interrogation.

From the memo of Postal Inspector Harry Holmes, on page 636 of the WR.

Captain Fritz then asked him (LHO) about the ID card .........And he flared up and said " I told you all I'm going to about that card, YOU TOOK NOTES, just read them for yourself if you want to refresh your memory"

Well Mr P, .....The man who was being interrogated saw Fritz taking notes,  And he told Fritz to refer to the notes that he had taken...and Postal Inspector Harry Holmes heard Lee say that to Captain Fritz.  You really should extract your head, so that you can see what's  right in front of you.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1072 on: January 24, 2021, 03:19:06 PM »


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1073 on: January 24, 2021, 03:36:10 PM »
Mr Pierce Allman, Sixth Floor Museum interview:

"I... went up the steps of the Depository building and there was a guy in the doorway and I ran up to him and asked him where a phone was, and he jerked his thumb and said 'In there'. I thanked him and went on in."

Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #1074 on: January 24, 2021, 03:46:55 PM »
Mr Pierce Allman, Sixth Floor Museum interview:

"I... went up the steps of the Depository building and there was a guy in the doorway and I ran up to him and asked him where a phone was, and he jerked his thumb and said 'In there'. I thanked him and went on in."

When  PRECISELY  did Pierce Allman run to the TSBD steps??   

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1074 on: January 24, 2021, 03:46:55 PM »


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1075 on: January 24, 2021, 03:54:08 PM »
Mr Pierce Allman, Sixth Floor Museum interview:

"I... went up the steps of the Depository building and there was a guy in the doorway and I ran up to him and asked him where a phone was, and he jerked his thumb and said 'In there'. I thanked him and went on in."

1/ Mr Oswald is on the front steps at the time of the assassination

2/ Officer Baker comes charging up, and asks him if he works here (---->he needs someone to point him to the nearest stairs)

3/ Mr Truly comes up and offers to escort Officer Baker

4/ Shortly after this, Ms Reid comes up the steps; Mr Oswald (with Coke still in hand) asks her, 'What's all the excitement about?'; she tells him someone has shot the President

5/ Shortly after this, Mr Allman comes up the steps and asks Mr Oswald----who is still in the doorway----where a phone is; Mr Oswald tells him 'In there'

6/ Mr Oswald descends the steps and goes out into the street to check out the commotion

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1076 on: January 24, 2021, 04:17:38 PM »
Captain Fritz's 'notes' were not taken during the interrogation----------they were scribbled while listening to playback of dictated reports made by Agent Bookhout.

Compare:

Fritz 'notes':

claims 2nd Floor Coke when
off came in
to 1st fl had lunch
out with Bill Shelley in
front
left wk opinion nothing be
done that day etc.
? punch clock
8-8/45 were not
rigid abt time
wked reg. 1st Fl.
but all over

Agent Bookhout:

OSWALD stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca-cola from the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. Mr. Truly was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employees lunch room. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman BILL SHELLEY and thereafter went home. He stated that he left work because, in his opinion, based upon remarks of BILL SHELLEY, he did not believe that there was going to be any more work that day due to the confusion in the building.
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OSWALD stated that his hours of work at the Texas School Book Depository are from 8 a.m. to 4:45 p.m., but that he is not required to punch a time clock. His usual place of work in the building is on the first floor; however he frequently is required to go to the fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh floors of the building in order to get books and this was true on November 22, 1963, and he had been on all of the floors in the performance of his duties on November 22, 1963.

What a shame....  You're never going to move up to the forefront of this marathon , Mr Ford..... Because you hamper yourself with that back pack full of Bull s---

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1076 on: January 24, 2021, 04:17:38 PM »


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« Reply #1077 on: January 24, 2021, 04:56:44 PM »
Quite extraordinary that you leave this out-------------



If it was the truth he would have kept repeating it and the other employees would have stated it was true. Instead he changes his story to finally being on the upper floors working during the assassination and only coming down to see what was causing the "commotion".  A marine who doesn't know what the sound of gunfire sounds like. His ever changing story places him all over the inside of the building but never in verifiable company of anyone else. The coke on the second floor and the encounter with Baker and Trully is LHO's only constant. An encounter that was the result of him coming down the stairs to see what the commotion was all about.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1078 on: January 24, 2021, 05:23:10 PM »
If it was the truth he would have kept repeating it and the other employees would have stated it was true. Instead he changes his story to finally being on the upper floors working during the assassination and only coming down to see what was causing the "commotion".  A marine who doesn't know what the sound of gunfire sounds like. His ever changing story places him all over the inside of the building but never in verifiable company of anyone else. The coke on the second floor and the encounter with Baker and Trully is LHO's only constant. An encounter that was the result of him coming down the stairs to see what the commotion was all about.

Jack, Lee Oswald never ever said that he had heard the shots fired.....And he did NOT say that he was on the upper floors and came down to see what the commotion was all about.   He wasn't even aware of any "commotion" until he returned to the first floor after the encounter with Baker in the second floor lunchroom.  When Baker came into the 2nd floor lunchroom Lee was a bit startled and it probably tweaked a mild curiosity which caused him to wonder "what the hell was that all about".....

After he returned to the first floor he probably noticed people entering the building and talking in alarmed or excited tones, and that's when he went outside to see what the commotion was all about.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1078 on: January 24, 2021, 05:23:10 PM »


Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1079 on: January 24, 2021, 06:10:47 PM »
Jack, Lee Oswald never ever said that he had heard the shots fired.....And he did NOT say that he was on the upper floors and came down to see what the commotion was all about.   He wasn't even aware of any "commotion" until he returned to the first floor after the encounter with Baker in the second floor lunchroom.  When Baker came into the 2nd floor lunchroom Lee was a bit startled and it probably tweaked a mild curiosity which caused him to wonder "what the hell was that all about".....

After he returned to the first floor he probably noticed people entering the building and talking in alarmed or excited tones, and that's when he went outside to see what the commotion was all about.
Report of U.S. Postal Inspector H.D. Holmes

"When asked as to his whereabouts at the time of the shooting, he stated that when lunch time came, and he didn't say which floor he was on, he said one of the Negro employees invited him to eat lunch with him and he stated "You go on down and send the elevator back up and I will join you in a few minutes." Before he could finish whatever he was doing, he stated, the commotion surrounding the assassination took place and when he went down stairs,

He would have heard the shots, the rifle was right by his right ear.