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Online Royell Storing

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« Reply #84 on: July 15, 2020, 09:00:39 PM »
  No "struggle" at all. Connally is Not Hit when JFK is. The images of Connally Firmly griping his Stetson along with Connally's own statements regarding his turning to his (R) to see what the Hub-Bub was in the back seat behind him also makes this clear.
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« Reply #85 on: July 15, 2020, 11:43:44 PM »
Exactly what movement indicates to you that an impact occurs at z228?

I don't pretend to speak for Martin Hinrichs.

But my guess is that he's talking about the sudden lurch forward between about Z231 and Z235.

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« Reply #86 on: July 15, 2020, 11:45:32 PM »
Nice work Bill.
Two things seem really clear from the clip - JFK's reaction to being shot is a single, fluid, complex of movements

People always think that their own biased interpretations are "really clear".

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The other thing, which could hardly be more obvious, is that both men are shot through at the same time. For me it's as obvious as JFK's "back and to the left" head snap.

Of course it is.

Online Dan O'meara

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« Reply #87 on: July 16, 2020, 12:35:40 AM »
People always think that their own biased interpretations are "really clear".

My interpretation isn't biased in any way. It honestly reflects what I see. Just because it doesn't agree with your interpretation doesn't make it biased. When I look at the following clip I can't escape my natural and honest opinion that both men are shot through at the same time. Some observations by Brian Rochelle on another thread have strengthened this opinion.





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« Reply #88 on: July 16, 2020, 12:41:25 AM »
My interpretation isn't biased in any way. It honestly reflects what I see. Just because it doesn't agree with your interpretation doesn't make it biased. When I look at the following clip I can't escape my natural and honest opinion that both men are shot through at the same time. Some observations by Brian Rochelle on another thread have strengthened this opinion.



   So tell me again how Connally is managing to hang onto that Stetson Hat with a Shattered Arm, Busted Ribs, and Punctured Lung?

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« Reply #89 on: July 16, 2020, 12:56:19 AM »


How is Jackies hat staying on her head?

Online Dan O'meara

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« Reply #90 on: July 16, 2020, 01:50:45 AM »
   So tell me again how Connally is managing to hang onto that Stetson Hat with a Shattered Arm, Busted Ribs, and Punctured Lung?
Right at the beginning of the sequence it is possible to see JBC's shirt cuff just above the top of the door. It instantly disappears as the bullet impacts his wrist. His hand then rebounds up slightly. The force of the impact pulls his right shoulder forward and down. Towards the end of the sequence JBC's hand is in a really weird position, the wrist is offering no more support and the hand seems completely bent over. He couldn't let go of his Stetson if he wanted to and it is reported he is still gripping it when he gets to Parkland.That's what I'm seeing with a couple of assumptions thrown in.
Credit to Brian Rochelle for pointing most of this out.