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Offline Michael T. Griffith

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Re: Ruby / Tippit ?
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2020, 10:32:47 PM »
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Yes. That makes since. Ruby knew beforehand about the assassination. But he still went down to the newspaper and paid money to put in advertisement for his club. But when he heard the assassination took place, he tried to get his money back but couldn’t. So, he then cancelled the advertisement for his club, since it would be in bad taste to advertise that weekend, even though he couldn’t get his money back. I would take a skeptical look at that credible evidence.

No, I would stop uncritically swallowing every staged action that was designed to provide a cover story. I take it you're saying that the FBI informant was lying when he said Ruby invited him to "watch the fireworks" and that he watched the assassination with Ruby? How about the former Marine and former Dallas police officer, Ray Cummings, who said he drove Oswald and David Ferrie to Ruby's club? Was he lying too? How about the other people who reported seeing Oswald and Ruby together, such as Walt Weston, who worked for Ruby and counted him a friend? All lying or "mistaken"?

Are you aware that several people reported that Ruby told them that he was involved in the assassination conspiracy and/or that he shot Oswald to silence him? Are you aware that one of Ruby's ex-girlfriends said Ruby disliked the Kennedys and that Ruby was ordered by his "bosses" to kill Oswald?

https://miketgriffith.com/files/oswaldruby.htm
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4778698/jfk-files-explosive-documents-reveal-lee-harvey-oswald-and-jack-ruby-met-each-other-in-weeks-before-assassination-went-to-cuba-together-to-cut-sugar-cane-and-were-heard-discussing-big-bird/
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/N%20Disk/New%20York%20Daily%20News%206-76/Item%2001.pdf
https://jfkfacts.org/ex-flame-says-jack-ruby-had-no-choice-but-to-kill-oswald/
http://harveyandlee.net/Ruby/Ruby.html

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Offline Joe Mannix

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Re: Ruby / Tippit ?
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2020, 01:31:03 AM »
I wonder if the 3rd person was Shaw? How would Las Vegas handicap it?

Clay Shaw 2-1

Sergio Aracha Smith 3-1

Frank Sturgis 30-1

Others?

Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2020, 02:32:10 AM »
Regarding Tippit, he was exactly the kind of dirty cop that might be asked to shoot a patsy.
There are different kinds of dirty cops?
 What material is available that supports Tippit being assigned to 'shoot a patsy'?

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2020, 03:07:17 AM »
Allow me to illustrate this point. John Franklin Elrod, an unfortunate alcoholic who happened to be walking along the railroad tracks not far from where Kennedy was shot on 22 November 1963, was thrown into the Dallas jail, arrested on suspicion of involvement in the assassination. He claims that in 1964 he told the FBI in Memphis that Oswald had identified another prisoner, one Lawrence Miller, in the jail that day. Miller had been arrested two days earlier with Jack Ruby's auto mechanic Donnell Whitter with US Army weapons stolen from National Guard Armory in Terrell, Texas.
https://miketgriffith.com/files/oswaldruby.htm
This hearsay was also in "Oswald Talked" by Ray & Mary La Fontaine - 1996----- Yeah.. I read that well written yarn.
Mike... Oswald was placed in solitary confinement at the Dallas jail. No one else ever spoke to or with him that weekend...no one.
Do you actually think that the cops would have it any other way?

Offline Michael T. Griffith

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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2020, 11:33:34 AM »
I wonder if the 3rd person was Shaw?

Garrison asked Cummings that very question and showed him numerous photos of Shaw. Cummings said the third man did not look like Shaw.

Cummings is an especially compelling witness not only because of his background but because he did not want to come forward but felt he had a duty to do so and was hoping that he could do so without any attracting any publicity.

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Offline Michael T. Griffith

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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2020, 12:09:59 AM »
An often-overlooked source on Jack Ruby's extensive Mafia ties is the HSCA Report. I have extracted the section on Ruby and the Mafia and have highlighted key statements, segments, and paragraphs:

https://miketgriffith.com/files/hscaandjackruby.pdf

The HSCA's investigation into Jack Ruby and his Mafia ties was some of the committee's best work.