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Author Topic: If Oswald Was The Assassin, Did He Plan His Escape From The TSBD Very Well?  (Read 79381 times)

Offline Bill Chapman

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Why not bring the rifle down the stairs then to the 1st floor?

Maybe he might have needed to shoot someone on the stairs.

Good one

Baker: Who's that guy with the rifle?
Truly: That's okay, he works here.
Baker: Okay, he can go
Oswald: [SMIRK]
« Last Edit: July 02, 2020, 11:41:32 AM by Bill Chapman »

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Offline Colin Crow

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Oswald was well aware thing go better with Coke. That's all he needed to get out. At least 4 others descended from the 5th floor either via stairs or elevator after the lunchroom encounter. Seems evading detention by police immediately following the shooting wasn't much of a problem. Doubt it was planned though.

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Oswald could not have had his rifle after he left the 6th floor?

If you're trying to say that Garner should have seen Oswald as he went down the stairs then that's another question. According to Adams, Garner was standing with the other ladies watching the parade and I personally think with all the ruckus going on outside that the ladies would be trying to work out what was happening outside for at least a minute or two which gave Oswald plenty of time to go down the stairs.

Mr. BELIN - Were you standing with anyone
Miss ADAMS - Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN - With whom?
Miss ADAMS - I was standing with Sandra Styles, Elsie Dorman, and Dorothy May Garner.


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Now, this is what I call fictitious evidence, where "Johnny" inserts his worthless opinion into the story and tries to sell it as "evidence".

The real evidence is that, according to the Stroud letter, Dorothy Garner said, after she saw the girls [Adams & Styles] go down, she saw Truly and the policeman come up. That's contemporary evidence showing that Adams and Styles went down the stairs immediately after the shots, and thus prior to the shooter being able to reach the stairs. The fact that she saw Truly and Baker come up, also means that Garner was in a position where she could see the stairs and/or the landing.

The WC didn't disregard the Stroud letter and Garner for nothing! It would be wise to ignore "Johnny's fictitious evidence" in a similar way.


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Offline Bill Chapman

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Assuming he was the assassin though. He'd have had to make his way past Dorothy Garner. And if she was telling the truth, that would appear almost impossible.

Seems he found a way

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Seems he found a way

Another LN nothingburger...

Amazing stuff; Oswald couldn't have gone down the stairs without being seen, but according to LNs he did just that. Oswald couldn't have gotten to 10th & Patton in time to shoot Tippit, but according to the LNs he did just that. Never mind that in both cases evidence needed to be ignored or manipulated.

LN "logic": Oswald is the killer, so regardless how impossible it is, he must have done those things...... WOW
« Last Edit: July 02, 2020, 12:11:05 PM by Martin Weidmann »

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Oswald was well aware thing go better with Coke. That's all he needed to get out. At least 4 others descended from the 5th floor either via stairs or elevator after the lunchroom encounter. Seems evading detention by police immediately following the shooting wasn't much of a problem. Doubt it was planned though.

I thought Dr Pepper made 'thing' things go better for Oswald.
And all he needed to get out was 'yours Truly' and a motorcycle cop (aka dumb & dumber).
You see, apparently one is automatically immune from wrongdoing as long as you worked in that building.

« Last Edit: July 02, 2020, 12:21:28 PM by Bill Chapman »

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Another LN nothingburger...

Amazing stuff; Oswald couldn't have gone down the stairs without being seen, but according to LNs he did just that. Oswald couldn't have gotten to 10th & Patton in time to shoot Tippit, but according to the LNs he did just that. Never mind that in both cases evidence needed to be ignored or manipulated.

LN "logic": Oswald is the killer, so regardless how impossible it is, he must have done those things...... WOW

 :'(

And where are those fries I asked about?

« Last Edit: July 02, 2020, 12:42:37 PM by Bill Chapman »

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Offline John Mytton

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Now, this is what I call fictitious evidence, where "Johnny" inserts his worthless opinion into the story and tries to sell it as "evidence".

The real evidence is that, according to the Stroud letter, Dorothy Garner said, after she saw the girls [Adams & Styles] go down, she saw Truly and the policeman come up. That's contemporary evidence showing that Adams and Styles went down the stairs immediately after the shots, and thus prior to the shooter being able to reach the stairs. The fact that she saw Truly and Baker come up, also means that Garner was in a position where she could see the stairs and/or the landing.

The WC didn't disregard the Stroud letter and Garner for nothing! It would be wise to ignore "Johnny's fictitious evidence" in a similar way.

Sorry Martin, not only did Truly and Baker never see Adams, Vickie testified that she saw Lovelady and Shelley together on the first floor and we know that Lovelady and Shelley entered the building much much later, and in addition what completely destroys your desperate ideas is that Adams made a correction on that very page of her signed deposition. Oops! Try again!



Btw when do we get to see your "real" evidence? Hahahaha!

JohnM