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Offline Richard Rubio

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Re: "Russia doesn't do that sort of thing,Tommy! THE COLD WAR IS OVER !"
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2020, 10:22:38 PM »
I've read Atlantic Council before, really good stuff.

I don't think is a think tank but, Yes, they are indeed a think tank:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Council

These think tanks, depending on your political view have a lot of valuable information out there for all, Hudson Institute, I like them but there are a number of other ones too... youtube videos for some of them, stimulating discussioins, Brookings, Hoover,  the Wilson Center and so on.

There's also some located, well, pretty obviously in the UK and Israel too. The BESA Center for Strategic Studies, named for Menachem Began and Sadat who got the Camp David Accord going.

So, talking about all of these places in general, one can find out some good things, they are informative. On the other hand, some of their "experts" one might reject straight out of hand.  One might say "Oh, they don't know what they are talking about"...

But I do like the Atlantic Council, good stuff.

In London, not the US, is the Henry (Scoop) Jackson center*... they are pretty good.

* Center, Institute, something like that, I can't get the names exactly correct always.  Or even Society....

https://henryjacksonsociety.org/
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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: "Russia doesn't do that sort of thing,Tommy! THE COLD WAR IS OVER !"
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2020, 03:45:41 AM »
I've read Atlantic Council before, really good stuff.

I don't think is a think tank but, Yes, they are indeed a think tank:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Council

These think tanks, depending on your political view have a lot of valuable information out there for all, Hudson Institute, I like them but there are a number of other ones too... youtube videos for some of them, stimulating discussioins, Brookings, Hoover,  the Wilson Center and so on.

There's also some located, well, pretty obviously in the UK and Israel too. The BESA Center for Strategic Studies, named for Menachem Began and Sadat who got the Camp David Accord going.

So, talking about all of these places in general, one can find out some good things, they are informative. On the other hand, some of their "experts" one might reject straight out of hand.  One might say "Oh, they don't know what they are talking about"...

But I do like the Atlantic Council, good stuff.

In London, not the US, is the Henry (Scoop) Jackson center*... they are pretty good.

* Center, Institute, something like that, I can't get the names exactly correct always.  Or even Society....

https://henryjacksonsociety.org/

Dear Richard,

The Atlantic Council ?

Is it mentioned in the article I posted?

Regardless, do you prefer Russia-funded think tanks?

Speaking of Russia-funded think tanks, did you know that a KGB true-defector, Major Anatoliy Golitsyn (1961), had worked at KGB's strategy "think tank" in Moscow, and that's how he knew about the new-as-of-1959, top-secret, deception-based "KGB within the KGB" -- Department D of the First Chief Directorate (today's SVR) and the less risk-averse Department 14 of the Second Chief Directorate (today's FSB), the latter of which sent back to U.N. headquarters on its very first operation GRU Colonel Dimitri Polyakov to "volunteer" to spy for the FBI and CIA, and who, ironically, did actually start spying for CIA after he'd been rotated out two years later to KGB stations in India and Burma, and was eventually uncovered by KGB in Moscow and ... gasp ... executed?


--  MWT  ;)
« Last Edit: June 05, 2020, 04:19:21 AM by Thomas Graves »

Offline Richard Rubio

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Re: "Russia doesn't do that sort of thing,Tommy! THE COLD WAR IS OVER !"
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2020, 02:49:39 AM »
Dear Richard,

The Atlantic Council ?

Is it mentioned in the article I posted?

Regardless, do you prefer Russia-funded think tanks?

Speaking of Russia-funded think tanks, did you know that a KGB true-defector, Major Anatoliy Golitsyn (1961), had worked at KGB's strategy "think tank" in Moscow, and that's how he knew about the new-as-of-1959, top-secret, deception-based "KGB within the KGB" -- Department D of the First Chief Directorate (today's SVR) and the less risk-averse Department 14 of the Second Chief Directorate (today's FSB), the latter of which sent back to U.N. headquarters on its very first operation GRU Colonel Dimitri Polyakov to "volunteer" to spy for the FBI and CIA, and who, ironically, did actually start spying for CIA after he'd been rotated out two years later to KGB stations in India and Burma, and was eventually uncovered by KGB in Moscow and ... gasp ... executed?


--  MWT  ;)

I must have opened the Atlantic Council off of twitter but 2 or 3 nights ago, I was a bit puzzled as to why your article came up.  The article does possibly have something to do with your article but maybe I clicked it off of twitter. This is the article, still in the cache.
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Mon, Mar 16, 2020
Pushing back against Russian aggression: Legislative options

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/in-depth-research-reports/issue-brief/pushing-back-against-russian-aggression-legislative-options/

So, actually, if one likes the Atlantic Council, they are not big fans of Russia or Putin.

It sure is odd though, how I could have clicked it and I thought I did it a 2nd time to make sure.

I'm totally for Ukraine and this website, gives Ukraine news:   https://112.international/

I also read often, Radio Free Europe,   https://www.rferl.org/

And yes, "The Moscow Times" from time to time. This is NOT state-sponsored Russian media like RT, Tass. They are not totally free but just in layman's language, they seem to be somewhat independent... but if you get too independent, your place is going to get raided.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/

Interestingly, China has sort of an independent news agency, Caixan..... they have published a few things I know that might have gotten Beijing upset with them.

https://www.caixinglobal.com/

I will reread your posts in this matter.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2020, 03:09:17 AM by Richard Rubio »

Offline Richard Rubio

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Re: "Russia doesn't do that sort of thing,Tommy! THE COLD WAR IS OVER !"
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2020, 03:20:44 AM »
Horrible arrest.... reread the EU Observer article too,

Cosmic Security Clearance... 

From the EU article:

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And the reservist used to brag about his oligarch patrons, including, at one point, about Mikhail Khodorkovsky, a Russian former oil baron, who now lives in the UK.

Khodorovsky is a big dissident to Russia.   He's an important person, I guess, he's of great wealth but he tries to expose the Putin/Russian government.

https://khodorkovsky.com/

This is one website but I thought, there was another I was looking for...

MEDUZA, this is important, this is like Russian-opposition news, "real news from Russia", but this website comes from the Baltics somewhere.

https://meduza.io/en

Lots to read up on Russia definitely.

 

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