The Biggest Tragedy, In Retrospect

[Jerry Freeman]

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

There is just one of me   

It doesn't concern you that Chapman and her group of "KGB" illegals started doing their decade-long dirtywork ..

Not at all---The Dumbocrapic party concerns me a lot more

...so Putin's nemesis, Hillary Clinton, would lose...

How trollish 

Nemesis     
 
Who [again] are the "12 dwarfs?"
 
 

[Thomas Graves]

There is just one of me    ::)Not at all---The Dumbocrapic party concerns me a lot more How trollish 

Nemesis     
 
Who [again] are the "12 dwarfs?"

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

"The Twelve Dwarfs" is what I call the eleven or twelve or thirteen SVR (KGB) Russian-national "illegals" (undercover spies) who were living in the U.S. and Canada, with Russian "Anna Chapman" as the best-known member of their spy network, from about 2000 until they were "rolled up" by the FBI in 2010.

Ring any bells?

There's a Wikipedia article on them titled "The Illegals Program."

Why don't you look it up?

--  MWT 

PS  Regarding Democrats, do you dislike the way we're treating Vladimir Putin's corrupt "useful idiot" appointee in the White House, and the lackeys he, in turn, has appointed/nominated, like William Barr, for example?

[Jerry Freeman]

Nothing useful in that post.
I would expect Russian agents to spy on Americans. I would not expect the FBI [for just purely political reasons] to spy on Americans.

[Thomas Graves]

Jerry said:

"Nothing useful in that post.
I would expect Russian agents to spy on Americans. I would not expect the FBI [for just purely political reasons] to spy on Americans."
.

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

I thought you said the "KGB" was dead and inactive?

Nothing useful?  You mean it doesn't give you any ammo to use against the mythological CIA and FBI-controlled "Deep State"?

--  MWT 

[Michael Walton]

There's a pretty good show on TV lately called Spy Wars. I've watched about 3 episodes of it and it talks about Russian and US spies, counter spies and so on. Yes, I'm sure it continues and yes, I'm sure it was happening way back over 50 years ago when Kennedy was president.

Greg Parker wrote a good article about LHO and the so-called defection:

https://gregrparker.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/keenan.redskin.pdf

And of course Bill Simpich wrote State Secret:

https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/State_Secret.html

But Thomas Graves seems to continue to obsess with the Russians and they were somehow involved.

[Thomas Graves]

There's a pretty good show on TV lately called Spy Wars. I've watched about 3 episodes of it and it talks about Russian and US spies, counter spies and so on. Yes, I'm sure it continues and yes, I'm sure it was happening way back over 50 years ago when Kennedy was president.

Greg Parker wrote a good article about LHO and the so-called defection:

https://gregrparker.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/keenan.redskin.pdf

And of course Bill Simpich wrote State Secret:

https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/State_Secret.html

But Thomas Graves seems to continue to obsess with the Russians and they were somehow involved.

Michael,

The next time you confer with Bill, please ask him the following questions for me:

1) How was Eusebio Azcue's describing, in 1978, the "Oswald" he'd dealt with at the Cuban consulate in such a way that it perfectly described skinny, short, blond-haired, very thin-faced, 35 year-old KGB Colonel Nikolai Leonov ... a "Red Herring"? 

Does he think Azcue was working for the CIA?

2)  What does he make of the fact that the Soviet embassy's well-paid "security guard" who volunteered the made-radioactive-by-KGB name "Kostikov" over a sure-to-be-tapped-by-CIA phoneline on 10/1/63 to a (bad Russian-speaking and bad ENGLISH-speaking) Oswald impersonator ... was a Kremlin-loyal triple agent (in other words, a KGB officer whom CIA mistakenly believed it had successfully recruited, but in fact was still working for the KGB)?

3)  Does he still incorrectly believe that Obyedkov (misspelled "Byetkov" in Church Committee transcript of Angleton's June 1975 top-secret testimony) might have been FBI's 1966 SHAMROCK (in reality, Boris Orehkov)?

LOL

--  MWT 

[Jerry Freeman]

Jerry said:  I would expect Russian agents to spy on Americans. I would not expect the FBI [for just purely political reasons] to spy on Americans."

I did write [and confirm] that.

I thought you said the "KGB" was dead and inactive?   

I did write [and confirm] that. Why do you have to belong to some defunct agency to be a spy?
Duh