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Offline Alan Ford

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This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« on: May 04, 2020, 08:04:28 PM »
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This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
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Online Walt Cakebread

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2020, 09:26:51 PM »
Anyone who grasps just how problematic the data on this document are-----------



-----------can see that it presents strong evidence that curtain rods were
-brought by Mr Oswald in the Depository building on 11/22/63
-found there at a later date
-duly tested for Mr Oswald's prints...
-before being returned to the Paine garage in good time for on-the-record taking into evidence (!) by the WC.

But how, if not through Mr Oswald's actions, did a rifle get into the Depository that day?

This way:





Lone Nutters who have agonized over this question for so long need agonize no more! Thumb1:

Mrs Hall said that she talked to the police about seeing a man carry a 5 or 6 foot long package into the TSBD before the Presidents parade.   If she did, there should be a affidavit  which records her observations.

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2020, 10:02:21 PM »
They found the package Oswald had dropped into some container in the Annex roof part of the loading dock, when he entered the back door that Frazier saw, which door is NOT the door to TSDB proper

Since BWFhad stopped to watch the train, Oswald got ahead and entered this door (and it closed ) about 30 secs ahead of BWF.

Thus explains how BWF could have seen Oswald with package entering the “back door” of TSBD (which was actually the door to the roofed annex part of loading dock), and then Dougherty saw nothing in Oswald s hand as he entered the TSBD door

They never found the blinds and rods package that Oswald took from Paines garage during their initial searches of TSBD , thus made a bag which they put  Oswalds palm print on the bag in the wrong place ( probably the print was made on the bag in Fritz office by backing up the handcuffed Oswald against the desk the bag and blanket and some other “evidence” was placed

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2020, 04:01:53 PM »
This nonsense again that you have posted a million times already? And using "Mr. Oswald" LOL.  Such respect for a double murderer.  "Mr. Oswald" himself denied carrying any curtain rods that day.  So you are claiming Mr. Oswald was a liar.  Not only that but he is lying against his own self interest for some inexplicable reason since he could have directed the DPD to this curtain rod package had it existed to confirm it did not contain a rifle.  But instead he lies despite knowing that he had told Frazier that story.  Right.

But wait there is more!  Months after Oswald is dead the authorities for some inexplicable reason decide on their own motion to the check the curtain rods they are covering up and deny exist for his fingerprints!  The very last thing they would ever do.  And they document this in a form. HA HA HA.  It doesn't get any better than that.  Those nutty conspirators.  Imagine that scenario.  And that doesn't even get into who found the curtain rods at the TSBD in this fantasy and how they were kept quiet etc.  Comedy gold.   No good deed goes unpunished.  The WC learned about the presence of some curtain rods in the Paine's garage.  Out of an abundance of caution because Oswald told Frazier he was carrying curtain rods, they decided to check them out.  If there were any doubt whatsoever, the same WC exhibit numbers for the curtain rods in the Paine's garage are noted on the form.

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2020, 04:50:46 PM »
This nonsense again that you have posted a million times already? And using "Mr. Oswald" LOL.  Such respect for a double murderer.  "Mr. Oswald" himself denied carrying any curtain rods that day.  So you are claiming Mr. Oswald was a liar.  Not only that but he is lying against his own self interest for some inexplicable reason since he could have directed the DPD to this curtain rod package had it existed to confirm it did not contain a rifle.  But instead he lies despite knowing that he had told Frazier that story.  Right.

But wait there is more!  Months after Oswald is dead the authorities for some inexplicable reason decide on their own motion to the check the curtain rods they are covering up and deny exist for his fingerprints!  The very last thing they would ever do.  And they document this in a form. HA HA HA.  It doesn't get any better than that.  Those nutty conspirators.  Imagine that scenario.  And that doesn't even get into who found the curtain rods at the TSBD in this fantasy and how they were kept quiet etc.  Comedy gold.   No good deed goes unpunished.  The WC learned about the presence of some curtain rods in the Paine's garage.  Out of an abundance of caution because Oswald told Frazier he was carrying curtain rods, they decided to check them out.  If there were any doubt whatsoever, the same WC exhibit numbers for the curtain rods in the Paine's garage are noted on the form.

Cool your jets, Mr Smith-------it's not my fault you can't explain away the document!  :D

Now! Perhaps you could tell us where the WC exhibit numbers 275 & 276 came from?

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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2020, 04:50:46 PM »

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2020, 09:38:59 PM »
They found the package Oswald had dropped into some container in the Annex roof part of the loading dock, when he entered the back door that Frazier saw, which door is NOT the door to TSDB proper

Since BWFhad stopped to watch the train, Oswald got ahead and entered this door (and it closed ) about 30 secs ahead of BWF.

Thus explains how BWF could have seen Oswald with package entering the “back door” of TSBD (which was actually the door to the roofed annex part of loading dock), and then Dougherty saw nothing in Oswald s hand as he entered the TSBD door

They never found the blinds and rods package that Oswald took from Paines garage during their initial searches of TSBD , thus made a bag which they put  Oswalds palm print on the bag in the wrong place ( probably the print was made on the bag in Fritz office by backing up the handcuffed Oswald against the desk the bag and blanket and some other “evidence” was placed

Prolly [sic] the print!!!

...thus made a bag which they put  Oswalds palm print on the bag in the wrong place ( probably the print was made on the bag in Fritz office by backing up the handcuffed Oswald against the desk the bag and blanket and some other “evidence” was placed.

Have you got any proof that such an event occurred?



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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2020, 09:41:57 PM »
Mrs Hall said that she talked to the police about seeing a man carry a 5 or 6 foot long package into the TSBD before the Presidents parade.   If she did, there should be a affidavit  which records her observations.

A 5 or 6 foot long package!!!

That's too long for a 40 inch Carcano rifle.

Perhaps the assassination was accomplished with a bazooka.

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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2020, 09:41:57 PM »

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2020, 11:33:44 PM »
A 5 or 6 foot long package!!!

That's too long for a 40 inch Carcano rifle.

Perhaps the assassination was accomplished with a bazooka.

Mrs Hall ESTIMATED the package was about 5 feet long and 6 inches wide.....

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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2020, 11:46:37 PM »
Mrs Hall ESTIMATED the package was about 5 feet long and 6 inches wide.....

ESTIMATED: Like Buell Frazier and Linnie May Randle ESTIMATED Oswald's "Friday morning package" to be 2 feet give or take a few inches. That means as much as 27 inches. The shortest the package could have been (if it contained Oswald's Carcano rifle) was 35 inches. When disassembled, the longest part was the wooden stock which was 34.8 inches long. A discrepancy of 8 inches is accounted for by the fact that Randle and Frazier did not "measure" Oswald's package: they ESTIMATED its length.

So let's have no more of that claim: The package that Randle and Frazier saw Oswald carry on the morning of 22 November 1963 was "too short" to contain the Carcano rifle.

And that I believe is CHECKMATE.

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Re: This is how the rifle was gotten into the building
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2020, 11:57:50 PM »
Cool your jets, Mr Smith-------it's not my fault you can't explain away the document!  :D
Now! Perhaps you could tell us where the WC exhibit numbers 275 & 276 came from?
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