Shells, rifle, SN... Who?

[Gerry Down]

There is footage that was taken by Tom Alyea on the sixth floor at the time the rifle was lifted from THE FLOOR which shows the rifle was a model 91/38 Mannlicher Carcano.     Please provide the absolute proof that that Carcano belonged to Lee Oswald.

The footage is too grainy to show any numbers. What this shows us is that a carcano was on the 6th floor. Not a mauser.

[Walt Cakebread]

The footage is too grainy to show any numbers. What this shows us is that a carcano was on the 6th floor. Not a mauser.

What this shows us is that a carcano was on the 6th floor.

What this shows us is that a carcano was on the 6th floor.   That's correct the carcano was ON THE FLOOR and not jammed between any boxes as the fake in situ photos depict.   

This is important because the position of the rifle ON THE FLOOR was over three feet away from the aisle at the top of the stairs ...and DOWN in a cavern that was about three feet deep.   No 5 " 9" man could have reached across that span and placed the rifle there ON THE FLOOR in a few seconds after the shooting.

That carcano was placed in that position BEFORE the shooting.....It was strictly a plant , just as the spent shells were strictly a plant....  Those items were there to frame Lee Oswald.....

[Walt Cakebread]

The footage is too grainy to show any numbers. What this shows us is that a carcano was on the 6th floor. Not a mauser.

this shows us is that a carcano was on the 6th floor. Not a mauser.

Thank You.... You are one of the few who will not gouge his eyes out because of what those eyes tell him.

[Jerry Freeman]

Guys...who cares anymore if there was a Mauser, a Carcano, or a Daisy BB gun? It will not prove Oswald shot JFK.

[Walt Cakebread]

Guys...who cares anymore if there was a Mauser, a Carcano, or a Daisy BB gun? It will not prove Oswald shot JFK.

The mauser BS is one piece of excrement that needs to be flushed down the toilet and eliminated from the record of disinformation ....

Many simple CT's want to cling to the BS as a way of arguing that Lee was innocent. ...and the rifle found was not a carcano.

[Jack Trojan]

The mauser BS is one piece of excrement that needs to be flushed down the toilet and eliminated from the record of disinformation ....

Many simple CT's want to cling to the BS as a way of arguing that Lee was innocent. ...and the rifle found was not a carcano.

You STILL don't get it because you are bereft of critical thinking. For some reason you think that the Alyea film demonstrates that a Mauser was not found at the scene. That's pure BS so stop contending that it does. Logic doesn't work that way. For the last time (which I doubt), no one is denying that the Alyea film shows a Carcano, which was just how Fritz wanted it.

Now tell us again why this proves a Mauser was not also found on the 6th floor just like Wietzman claimed before Fritz removed it? It might not have been where the Carcano was planted so give that excuse up. And don't give me more Weitzman was mistaken crap. You don't believe that except to cling to your "there was no Mauser, except for the one that Weitzman identified". Do you realize how ignorant that sounds? And while you are at it, why did Fritz hand Weitzman a Mauser to identify if it was not somehow related to the "Big Event"? This was a conspiracy, right?

Many simple CT's want to cling to the BS as a way of arguing that Lee was innocent. ...and the rifle found was not a carcano.

Give it a rest and just admit you were wrong that it was impossible that Weitzman AND Craig saw a Mauser on the 6th floor. Of course no one trusts your 100% certainty anyway, because you only want to save face for being monumentally wrong. And an apology to Craig is in order for wanting to piss on his grave for blowing the whistle on the Big Event you Trumptard. 

[Walt Cakebread]

You STILL don't get it because you are bereft of critical thinking. For some reason you think that the Alyea film demonstrates that a Mauser was not found at the scene. That's pure BS so stop contending that it does. Logic doesn't work that way. For the last time (which I doubt), no one is denying that the Alyea film shows a Carcano, which was just how Fritz wanted it.

Now tell us again why this proves a Mauser was not also found on the 6th floor just like Wietzman claimed before Fritz removed it? It might not have been where the Carcano was planted so give that excuse up. And don't give me more Weitzman was mistaken crap. You don't believe that except to cling to your "there was no Mauser, except for the one that Weitzman identified". Do you realize how ignorant that sounds? And while you are at it, why did Fritz hand Weitzman a Mauser to identify if it was not somehow related to the "Big Event"? This was a conspiracy, right?

Many simple CT's want to cling to the BS as a way of arguing that Lee was innocent. ...and the rifle found was not a carcano.

Give it a rest and just admit you were wrong that it was impossible that Weitzman AND Craig saw a Mauser on the 6th floor. Of course no one trusts your 100% certainty anyway, because you only want to save face for being monumentally wrong. And an apology to Craig is in order for wanting to piss on his grave for blowing the whistle on the Big Event you Trumptard. 

Jack, Apparently you are of the mind set that thinks insults and name calling will win the debate.   

 no one is denying that the Alyea film shows a Carcano,

 So you agree that the rifle that Day picked up FROM THE FLOOR  was a carcano.  Well, that's basis to start from.


just admit you were wrong that it was impossible that Weitzman AND Craig saw a Mauser on the 6th floor.

I'll be happy to do that, but I need proof that such a thing happened.   There was only one rifle found and there is not one iota of evidence that a mauser was found on the sixth floor.  There were dozens of police officers and news men on the sixth floor at the time and absolutely NOBODY reported seeing a mauser or a second gun......  Weitzman said that at first glance he assumed the carcano was a 7.65 mauser but he was mistaken...and the Alyea film shows that Weitzman was in fact mistaken.

[Walt Cakebread]

You STILL don't get it because you are bereft of critical thinking. For some reason you think that the Alyea film demonstrates that a Mauser was not found at the scene. That's pure BS so stop contending that it does. Logic doesn't work that way. For the last time (which I doubt), no one is denying that the Alyea film shows a Carcano, which was just how Fritz wanted it.

Now tell us again why this proves a Mauser was not also found on the 6th floor just like Wietzman claimed before Fritz removed it? It might not have been where the Carcano was planted so give that excuse up. And don't give me more Weitzman was mistaken crap. You don't believe that except to cling to your "there was no Mauser, except for the one that Weitzman identified". Do you realize how ignorant that sounds? And while you are at it, why did Fritz hand Weitzman a Mauser to identify if it was not somehow related to the "Big Event"? This was a conspiracy, right?

Many simple CT's want to cling to the BS as a way of arguing that Lee was innocent. ...and the rifle found was not a carcano.

Give it a rest and just admit you were wrong that it was impossible that Weitzman AND Craig saw a Mauser on the 6th floor. Of course no one trusts your 100% certainty anyway, because you only want to save face for being monumentally wrong. And an apology to Craig is in order for wanting to piss on his grave for blowing the whistle on the Big Event you Trumptard. 

why did Fritz hand Weitzman a Mauser to identify if it was not somehow related to the "Big Event"?

Pssst Jack,.... Don't look now but you're askin the same question that I've been asking.

The problem is we don't know that Fritz handed Weitzman that 7.65 mauser.    That is suggested by Sayer saying that Captain Fritz appeared and took the mauser from Weitzman, but we don't know it it was Fritz who handed the mauser to Weitzman.   

It seems to me that Sayer was either very tired , or drunk,  when he typed up his report.   It appears that he was working from notes that he took while interviewing Weitzman and affidavits that were written on 11/22/63.     He certainly appears to be confused.....  I simply can't imagine that Fritz would hand Weitzman a loaded rifle ....But Sayer says that Captain fritz appeared and took the rifle from Weitzman and ejected a live round from the rifle.   

This bit about Fritz ejecting a live round seems to be what was recorded in the affidavits as what happened on Friday afternoon when Day handed the Carcano to Fritz......