Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
0 Members

Author Topic: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?  (Read 42322 times)

Offline Walt Cakebread

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7322
Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #248 on: April 05, 2020, 10:55:35 PM »
Advertisement
Well, that’s the story you made up. That’s not what Weitzman said in his affidavit.

No I didn't make up the testimony of Weitzman telling Ball that he went to the DPD later that afternoon for an interview.

Post the affidavit..... 

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #248 on: April 05, 2020, 10:55:35 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10810
Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #249 on: April 06, 2020, 12:54:31 AM »
No I didn't make up the testimony of Weitzman telling Ball that he went to the DPD later that afternoon for an interview.

Post the affidavit.....

I mean the bit about him being called back to examine a rifle.

Offline Walt Cakebread

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7322
Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #250 on: April 06, 2020, 01:03:53 AM »
I mean the bit about him being called back to examine a rifle.

Weitzman basically said that he saw a mauser later that afternoon..... Use your head John.   Weitzmen said that he got only a quick glimpse of the rifle at the time Day picked the rifle up from the floor, and from that quick glimpse he assumed that it was a 7.65 mauser.  He couldn't have gave the details that FBI agent Sawyers recorded in his report from the information his eyes gathered when Day lifted the carcano up from the floor.

When Weitzman was being interviewed by sawyers he  had to have been given a 7.65 mauser to describe.....
« Last Edit: April 06, 2020, 05:05:32 PM by Walt Cakebread »

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #250 on: April 06, 2020, 01:03:53 AM »


Offline Gary Craig

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 907
Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #251 on: April 06, 2020, 03:15:01 PM »




Offline Walt Cakebread

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7322
Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #252 on: April 06, 2020, 04:16:23 PM »




What's the point ( or points) that you're attempting to make?   

Thanks for posting Sawyer's report. The part enclosed in red is the pertinent part.

Mr Weitzman described the rifle which was found   Where and when was this rifle found ??

as a 7.65 caliber bolt action rifle which loads from a five shot clip which is locked on the underside of the receiver forward of the trigger guard.

This clearly describes a 7.65 Argentine mauser.

The metal parts of this rifle were of gun metal color , gray or blue.

The TSBD carcano's metal was blue.

and the rear portion of the bolt was visibly worn.

The rear of the bolt on the carcano is NOT visibly worn.

The wooden portions of this rifle were  dark brown in color and of rough wood,

The wooden stock of the carcano is black  and it is NOT rough wood.

apparently having been used or damaged  to considerable extent.

The carcano stock is not battered or damaged....

This rifle is equipped with a four power scope of apparent Japanese manufacture.

The scope on the Carcano is clearly marked ..."MADE IN JAPAN"

It is also equipped with a thick brown-black leather bandolier type sling

The Carcano has a light duty black leather finished, carry strap the backside of the strap is unfinished rough tan leather.... it is NOT a bandolier type sling.

After he observed the rifle to the extent described above Captain Fritz appeared and took the rifle from him.

HUH???    This doesn't fit with any other witness report ......

He did not make note of any serial number on the rifle.
He observed Captain Fritz eject one rifle round of ammunition from this rifle.

Really???? Fritz would have given a loaded rifle to Weitzman??

  At this point he discontinued his search of the sixth floor of the building.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2020, 07:45:00 PM by Walt Cakebread »

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #252 on: April 06, 2020, 04:16:23 PM »


Offline Gary Craig

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 907
Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #253 on: April 06, 2020, 07:43:06 PM »
What's the point ( or points) that you're attempting to make?

Posted the FBI report to counter your made up interpretation of it, in reply #250, at the top of this page.

Offline Walt Cakebread

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7322
Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #254 on: April 06, 2020, 07:49:19 PM »
Posted the FBI report to counter your made up interpretation of it, in reply #250, at the top of this page.

Made Up??....  Get you head out!.....  I'm trying to decipher Sawyer's report..... 

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #254 on: April 06, 2020, 07:49:19 PM »


Offline Joffrey van de Wiel

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 134
Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #255 on: April 07, 2020, 01:56:53 AM »
Whether or not a Mauser was found in the TSBD is irrelevant, as the bullet found at Parkland after falling out of the Governor's thigh, as well as the two large bullet fragments recovered from the limousine were determined to have been fired through the barrel of the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle to the exclusion of all other rifles in the world.

No bullets or cartridges of 7.65 mm were ever recovered at the assassination scenes: the TSBD, Dealey Plaza etc.

Lead fragments recovered from the victims' bodies and the limousine were analyzed using Neutron Activation Analyses and it turned out that they all originated from the recovered bullet and fragments.

The evidence tying Oswald to the "assassination rifle" is questionable or so I am lead to believe.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2020, 11:51:38 AM by Joffrey van de Wiel »