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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #216 on: April 03, 2020, 04:40:49 PM »
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That describes the Mannlicher Carcano.....  Weitzman got a quick glimpse of the carcano as Day and Fritz were examining the rifle and made a WAG at the calber, and manufacturer....

Except that was Boone's description.

You yourself have admitted that Weitzman described a Mauser.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #217 on: April 03, 2020, 04:51:12 PM »
Except that was Boone's description.

You yourself have admitted that Weitzman described a Mauser.

Boone got the information from Weitzman.....Are you really this stupid, John?

You yourself have admitted that Weitzman described a Mauser.

He sure did!.... No doubt about it...But Weitzman did NOT give that description before he departed the TSBD at about 2:00pm that afternoon....
I've tried to discuss FBI agent A1bert Sawyers report with a knowledgeable  and honest person, but so far, nobody has  approached.

Sawyer's report is baffling to me..... for example ...Where the hell did he get the idea that Weitzman had a 7.65 Mauser IN HIS HANDS when Captain Fritz came and took the rifle from him????


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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #218 on: April 03, 2020, 05:13:25 PM »
When did Boone ever say that he got his information from Weitzman?

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« Reply #219 on: April 03, 2020, 05:17:10 PM »
If Weitzman was capable of reading the printing on the scope, then he was capable of reading "made in Italy" on the rifle.

What a ridiculous assumption..... Perhaps you should have opened your eyes and LOOKED at photo of the two inscriptions....A person nearly needs a magnifying glass to see the MADE ITALY stamped on the barrel whereas the inscription on the scope can easily be read at arms length ( or further)

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« Reply #220 on: April 03, 2020, 05:29:09 PM »
Your logic assumes that Weitzman/Boone were bolt-action cognoscenti enough to know that the crest would be ground off (and that different rifles would not have their national crests ground off). It also assumes that they saw the ground off crest and/or the receiver markings. There is no evidence whatsoever that either assumption is true.

Mitch, isn't this response carrying it a bit further than necessary?    Don't you agree that Weitzman simply made a WAG at the manufacturer of the rifle as he caught glimpse of it as Day and Fritz examined the rifle?  Weitzman didn't have the opportunity to closely examine the rifle, so he wouldn't have known if the crest was ground off.   Fritz simply asked if anybody recognized the make of rifle....and Weitzman ventured a WAG that it "looked like a 7.65 Mauser".....
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« Reply #221 on: April 03, 2020, 05:47:01 PM »
What a ridiculous assumption..... Perhaps you should have opened your eyes and LOOKED at photo of the two inscriptions....A person nearly needs a magnifying glass to see the MADE ITALY stamped on the barrel whereas the inscription on the scope can easily be read at arms length ( or further)

Do you have a photo that shows both in comparison?

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« Reply #222 on: April 03, 2020, 05:49:31 PM »
Do you have a photo that shows both in comparison?

Look in the WR

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« Reply #223 on: April 03, 2020, 05:53:48 PM »