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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2020, 10:56:39 PM »
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You forgot: Oswald's prints demonstrate that the paper bag (CE 142) is his.

a) How so? What do you mean by “his”?

b) What would this prove anyway?

Do the LN-ers find it even a little bit suspicious that Montgomery, Studebaker, and Johnson signed and dated the bag right next to the spot where the FBI later brought out a print using silver nitrate?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2020, 11:16:16 PM »
a) How so? What do you mean by “his”?

b) What would this prove anyway?

Do the LN-ers find it even a little bit suspicious that Montgomery, Studebaker, and Johnson signed and dated the bag right next to the spot where the FBI later brought out a print using silver nitrate?

Do the LN-ers find it even a little bit suspicious that Montgomery, Studebaker, and Johnson signed and dated the bag right next to the spot where the FBI later brought out a print using silver nitrate?

LN-ers Suspicious???    Surely you jest......  Suspicion would require imagination and curiosity .... Something that LN-ers have demonstrated that they are devoid of....

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2020, 11:21:56 PM »
Mr Lidell.... You as sooooo naive and gullible.

Explain what you mean by that?

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Offline Ross Lidell

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2020, 11:31:33 PM »
a) How so? What do you mean by “his”?

b) What would this prove anyway?

Do the LN-ers find it even a little bit suspicious that Montgomery, Studebaker, and Johnson signed and dated the bag right next to the spot where the FBI later brought out a print using silver nitrate?

If you lived in Kansas during the 1870's it would have been DODGE City: Possibly in CONTRARIAN Street.

a.) His means "his".

b.) Oswald's prints were on the long paper bag found on the 6th floor of the TSBD.

The bag matched the general description of the one Buell Frazier saw Oswald carry into the rear entrance to the TSBD.

The palm-print's position on the paper bag corresponds to the way Oswald carried it--according to Buell Frazier.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2020, 11:43:37 PM »
And to top it off, the sack was a perfect fit for Oswald's broken down rifle.

JohnM

Surely you mean the 34.8" sandwich.
And no, I'm not calling you 'Shirley'.
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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2020, 11:48:12 PM »
If you lived in Kansas during the 1870's it would have been DODGE City: Possibly in CONTRARIAN Street.

a.) His means "his".

b.) Oswald's prints were on the long paper bag found on the 6th floor of the TSBD.

The bag matched the general description of the one Buell Frazier saw Oswald carry into the rear entrance to the TSBD.

The palm-print's position on the paper bag corresponds to the way Oswald carried it--according to Buell Frazier.

Now, who is avoiding evidence?

Touching a bag and thus leaving a print doesn't make that bag yours! If everything I touch and left a print on would be mine, I would be a rich man in no time! And why do you ignore that fact that the bag was made of TSBD materials and was found at the TSBD, allegedly on the 6th floor, where Oswald worked. He could have simply moved the bag and left his print on it, if that is indeed what happened.

Besides there also were other prints on the bag which were never identified, which leave wide open the possibility of others having held/touched the bag as well

Frazier was shown the 6th floor bag on Friday evening by the DPD and he denied it was the one he had seen Oswald carry. And, actually, the bag did not "match" Frazier's description at all. He said Oswald carried a thin flimsy sack like the ones you can get from a dime store.

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2020, 11:50:45 PM »
Was the scope removed from the barrel?

In any event, a sniper could compensate for a slightly-off scope. In Dealey Plaza, the open sights would have been enough.


Next we'll hear that the bolt couldn't be operated. That Ventura's test proved it.

It doesn't matter if the scope was attached to the barrel because it was never aligned in the 1st place let alone sighted in. The FBI needed 3 shims under the mount to even hit the target. And, as usual, you missed my point. Give Oswald some cred, he knew the scope could not be relied on. So why leave it on the rifle if you know you are going to use the iron sights instead? Ironically, you keep making the case that Oswald acted more like a patsy than a dumb LN assassin.

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2020, 11:59:13 PM »
Was the scope removed from the barrel?

In any event, a sniper could compensate for a slightly-off scope. In Dealey Plaza, the open sights would have been enough.


Next we'll hear that the bolt couldn't be operated. That Ventura's test proved it.

"In any event, a sniper could compensate for a slightly-off scope."

Slightly-off?  The Army Sharp shooting Team the WC employed to test the TSBD Carcano was unable to zero in the scope.

"In Dealey Plaza, the open sights would have been enough."

The iron sights were fixed at 200 meters.

When that same Army Team tried to replicate a head shot, from the approximate height and distance the WC claimed, the bullet sailed over top of not only the silhouette but the board it was attached to.

"Next we'll hear that the bolt couldn't be operated."

Again, the same Army team found working the sticky bolt caused shooters to take the sights off the target.