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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #60 on: February 10, 2020, 05:58:20 PM »
He clearly had mafia ties. Thats not really up for debate.

Still doesn't explain this miraculous shot to the stomach. Or him bringing his dog with him. Or being in Western Union. Or why he didn't shoot Oswald in the police station, or wait until he got to jail.....
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"Or why he didn't shoot Oswald in the police station"
Ruby did shoot Oswald in the police station..right in front of the Keystone Cops.
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Or him bringing his dog with him.
Yeah...in the George Senator testimony 'dogs' were mentioned some 60 times and nothing was ever 'explained'.
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this miraculous shot to the stomach
A .38 shot in the gut upwards can kill. What you don't know is what ever happened to Oswald after he was was loaded up and headed for the hospital.

Offline Mike Orr

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #61 on: February 12, 2020, 01:50:16 AM »
It seems that Ruby not only knew many personnel at the Dallas Police Dept. which made it easier for him to get in the room where Oswald was being told that he was being charged with the shooting deaths of JFK and Tippit and also gets him in the front row area which gives him access to be able to Shoot Oswald in the stomach area . It was irrefutable that Jack Ruby had Mafia ties and as for the so called single bullet that supposedly went through JFK and John C , well , that dog just don't hunt !

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #62 on: February 12, 2020, 09:25:30 PM »

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A Dallas deputy sheriff named Al Maddox reported 30 years later that shortly before imprisoned Jack Ruby died on January 3rd, 1967, he slipped a note through his cell door and confessed: the mafia made him do it. It was the same confession gangster Carlos Marcello issued in HIS prison cell, in the 1980s, when incarcerated in Texarkana. He ordered Ruby to do it, to silence Oswald before he could blab to the prosecutors and the press, that the syndicate was behind the Kennedy assassination - and the Oswald assassination.
https://www.facebook.com/JFKandtheWillardHotelPlot/photos/a-dallas-deputy-sheriff-named-al-maddox-reported-30-years-later-that-shortly-bef/1161555440686164/
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Offline Ted Shields

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #63 on: February 14, 2020, 12:39:37 PM »
A .38 shot in the gut upwards can kill.

Oh it can kill yeah. So can a shot to the shoulder.

What you don't know is what ever happened to Oswald after he was was loaded up and headed for the hospital.

So they injured him again in the car on the way to the hospital? Did the doctors not notice this? Wheres the evidence for this?

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #64 on: February 14, 2020, 05:53:13 PM »
So they injured him again in the car on the way to the hospital? Did the doctors not notice this? Wheres the evidence for this?
Who said anything about "injure"? Can anybody not just easily smother someone to death who can hardly breathe anyway? Hypothetically speaking ::)
I've noticed that since you have been here...you post with a battery of questions which you then set about answering yourself.
So as you seem to have all the answers...why ask the questions in the first place unless you are just trolling around anyway?

Offline Ted Shields

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2020, 11:00:16 AM »
Who said anything about "injure"? Can anybody not just easily smother someone to death who can hardly breathe anyway? Hypothetically speaking ::)
I've noticed that since you have been here...you post with a battery of questions which you then set about answering yourself.
So as you seem to have all the answers...why ask the questions in the first place unless you are just trolling around anyway?

So Oswald was shot in the stomach by Ruby and then murdered in the ambulance by Jim Leavelle on the way to Parkland?

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #66 on: February 16, 2020, 02:15:28 PM »
So Oswald was shot in the stomach by Ruby and then murdered in the ambulance by Jim Leavelle on the way to Parkland?
Who told you Leavelle was in the ambulance?
These cops might have known who rode with Oswald...
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth185034/
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DALLAS, Nov. 24, 1963 (UPI) - Dr. Malcolm O. Perry said today that accused presidential assassin Lee Harvey Oswald was "lethally injured" by the time he arrived at Parkland Hospital's emergency room. "I could tell he was lethally injured when he came in," Perry said.
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1963/11/24/Physician-says-Oswald-lethally-injured-by-time-he-arrived/8181204553842/
You are chasing your tail.

Offline Ted Shields

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #67 on: February 17, 2020, 10:08:17 AM »
Who told you Leavelle was in the ambulance?
These cops might have known who rode with Oswald...

I find it difficult to decipher these vague insinuations. Are you saying Jim Leavelle was not in the ambulance? There are photos and video footage of him getting into the ambulance. It was broadcast on live TV. Are you suggesting that he got out of the ambulance somewhere between Main St and Parkland?

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth185034/https://www.upi.com/Archives/1963/11/24/Physician-says-Oswald-lethally-injured-by-time-he-arrived/8181204553842/
You are chasing your tail.

Explain. Everyone knows Oswald was lethally injured. So what?

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #68 on: February 17, 2020, 02:44:15 PM »
  There are photos and video footage of him getting into the ambulance. It was broadcast on live TV. Are you suggesting that he got out of the ambulance somewhere between Main St and Parkland?

Explain. Everyone knows Oswald was lethally injured. So what?
You have posted earlier... that one silly little shot from a .38 should not have been enough to kill him.
I have not seen everything...can you post those clips of Leavelle getting in and riding in the ambulance?

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #69 on: February 17, 2020, 03:38:02 PM »
  The chances of him killing Oswald with that shot were tiny. 
The first and only hit of it kind. 
Which is not a kill shot as abdominal gunshot wounds have a 90% survival rate.
And again, no one seems to be able to answer, why did he aim for stomach? Organized crime hits don't consist of single shots to the stomach with a .38. Ever. Why not? Because theres a 90% chance of survival.
Yet--- our resident expert on organized crime now expresses no surprise that upon arrival at the hospital Oswald was presumed lethally finished. Will you make up my mind?
OK I found a clip. It almost looks like James Leavelle is still handcuffed to Oswald! How totally bizarre if so. What..they couldn't find the key?
Anyway get it straight that I---1. Did not say Leavelle was not in the ambulance. 2. I did not suggest that Leavelle killed Oswald.

 

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