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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2020, 11:35:12 PM »


Thanks.
Real evidence. As opposed to some anecdotal rubbish.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #58 on: February 10, 2020, 03:27:30 PM »
The Warren Commission team ignored Jack Ruby's Mafia ties. The WC group claimed that no evidence could be found concerning such.
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Based on its evaluation of the record, however, the Commission believes that the evidence does not establish a significant link between Ruby and organized crime. Both State and Federal officials have indicated that Ruby was not affiliated with organized criminal activity.400 And numerous persons have reported that Ruby was not connected with such activity.
The Report acknowledges a casual association with Lewis McWillie...skirting his major exploits as a mob figure.
https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/appendix-16.html#underworld
 However, there was a lot more to it and everybody involved knew it---
 
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Lewis McWillie worked as a professional gambler in Memphis, Tennessee (1932-36). Later he worked in Jackson, Mississippi, and Dallas, Texas (1940-58). Then he moved to the Deauville Casino in Cuba. A fellow worker at the casino was John Martino. McWillie was also a business associate of Santos Trafficante and Meyer Lansky and later ran the Tropicana Casino in Havana. In August 1959 Jack Ruby visited McWillie.

When Fidel Castro took control of of the island McWillie was arrested and then deported to the United States. After a period in Miami Meyer Lansky placed him inside of his Tropicana Casino in Las Vegas. In 1961 Sam Giancana and Johnny Roselli recruited McWillie to look after Frank Sinatra's Cal-Neva Lodge in Nevada.

On 17th November, 1963, McWillie was seen with Jack Ruby at the Thunderbird Casino Las Vegas. According to John William Tuohy: "Two days after meeting McWillie in Las Vegas, Ruby was back in Dallas, flush with enough cash to pay off his back taxes."
https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKmcwillie.htm
 The Warren gang decided to dismiss Ruby's various activities with the underworld but Chief Council Robert Blakey decided to get a further look. Mr McWillie was certainly more than just a lowly gambler from Memphis.
Lewis McWillie was interviewed by the HSCA lawyers. It was telling enough [239 pages] The word 'guns' was mentioned some 3 dozen times.
Here is that link...
https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol5/pdf/HSCA_Vol5_0927_2_McWillie.pdf

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #59 on: February 10, 2020, 04:02:39 PM »
The Warren Commission team ignored Jack Ruby's Mafia ties.

He clearly had mafia ties. Thats not really up for debate.

Still doesn't explain this miraculous shot to the stomach. Or him bringing his dog with him. Or being in Western Union. Or why he didn't shoot Oswald in the police station, or wait until he got to jail.....

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #60 on: February 10, 2020, 05:58:20 PM »
He clearly had mafia ties. Thats not really up for debate.

Still doesn't explain this miraculous shot to the stomach. Or him bringing his dog with him. Or being in Western Union. Or why he didn't shoot Oswald in the police station, or wait until he got to jail.....
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"Or why he didn't shoot Oswald in the police station"
Ruby did shoot Oswald in the police station..right in front of the Keystone Cops.
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Or him bringing his dog with him.
Yeah...in the George Senator testimony 'dogs' were mentioned some 60 times and nothing was ever 'explained'.
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this miraculous shot to the stomach
A .38 shot in the gut upwards can kill. What you don't know is what ever happened to Oswald after he was was loaded up and headed for the hospital.

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Offline Mike Orr

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #61 on: February 12, 2020, 01:50:16 AM »
It seems that Ruby not only knew many personnel at the Dallas Police Dept. which made it easier for him to get in the room where Oswald was being told that he was being charged with the shooting deaths of JFK and Tippit and also gets him in the front row area which gives him access to be able to Shoot Oswald in the stomach area . It was irrefutable that Jack Ruby had Mafia ties and as for the so called single bullet that supposedly went through JFK and John C , well , that dog just don't hunt !

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #62 on: February 12, 2020, 09:25:30 PM »

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A Dallas deputy sheriff named Al Maddox reported 30 years later that shortly before imprisoned Jack Ruby died on January 3rd, 1967, he slipped a note through his cell door and confessed: the mafia made him do it. It was the same confession gangster Carlos Marcello issued in HIS prison cell, in the 1980s, when incarcerated in Texarkana. He ordered Ruby to do it, to silence Oswald before he could blab to the prosecutors and the press, that the syndicate was behind the Kennedy assassination - and the Oswald assassination.
https://www.facebook.com/JFKandtheWillardHotelPlot/photos/a-dallas-deputy-sheriff-named-al-maddox-reported-30-years-later-that-shortly-bef/1161555440686164/
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Offline Ted Shields

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #63 on: February 14, 2020, 12:39:37 PM »
A .38 shot in the gut upwards can kill.

Oh it can kill yeah. So can a shot to the shoulder.

What you don't know is what ever happened to Oswald after he was was loaded up and headed for the hospital.

So they injured him again in the car on the way to the hospital? Did the doctors not notice this? Wheres the evidence for this?