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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2020, 01:16:11 PM »
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Are you suggesting that Jack Ruby

a) intentionally planned to shoot Oswald only in the abdomen

b) knew the survival rate of abdominal gunshot wounds

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
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Offline Ted Shields

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2020, 04:59:41 PM »
Are you suggesting that Jack Ruby

a) intentionally planned to shoot Oswald only in the abdomen

b) knew the survival rate of abdominal gunshot wounds

You shoot him in the head or you don't shoot him at all. You wait until he gets to prison and kill him there.

Whats the difference between a clumsy effort in the police station or waiting a day and killing him in prison?

He wasn't going to court that day. It would've been months before a trial started so "they" would have had time to get him in prison.
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2020, 06:24:04 PM »
You shoot him in the head or you don't shoot him at all. You wait until he gets to prison and kill him there.

Do you have some experience as a mafia hit man?

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Whats the difference between a clumsy effort in the police station or waiting a day and killing him in prison?

He wasn't going to court that day. It would've been months before a trial started so "they" would have had time to get him in prison.

Ruby was buddy-buddy with the DPD.  Once Oswald was transferred to county, he wouldn't have had such access.

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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2020, 09:57:38 PM »
Yes "they" left Oswald be interrogated for 48 hours including allowing him to speak in front of the whole world.

Also, can anyone explain why Ruby shot him in the stomach? Which is not a kill shot as abdominal gunshot wounds have a 90% survival rate.

Honestly, someone please explain this.
Oswald talked to his wife, his mother and his brother. In each case alone, one on one. I've seen I've seen almost nothing indicating they were being monitored and even less indicating Oswald was prevented from fully talking to them. He talked alone to Lou Nichols, the head of the Dallas Bar Association. He was able to make phone calls. He met with the press. He was able to talk/yell to the press in the hall as he was being escorted from the various offices. In one of them he yelled he wanted John Abt as his lawyer.

He had numerous opportunities to expose this so called conspiracy. Not only did he not expose any conspiracy, the Dallas Police Department allowed him to expose one by allowing the above opportunities. Why take that risk? It makes no sense to me.

These are the types of questions that the conspiracy crowd - those that believe Oswald knew something - don't like. They show the sheer illogic of what they claim happened versus what did.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2020, 11:25:08 PM by Steve M. Galbraith »

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2020, 11:22:10 PM »
These are the types of questions that the conspiracy crowd - those that believe Oswald knew something - don't like. They show the sheer illogic of what they claim happened versus what did.
Regroup some brain cells ---Does it occur to the mind that maybe...just perhaps.... a patsy doesn't know anything about the plot/& or crime he is being framed for? :-\
« Last Edit: January 30, 2020, 11:24:45 PM by Jerry Freeman »

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Offline Ted Shields

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2020, 09:47:35 AM »
Do you have some experience as a mafia hit man?

Show me another example of an important assassination with a .38 to the stomach. It doesn't happen.

Ruby was buddy-buddy with the DPD.  Once Oswald was transferred to county, he wouldn't have had such access.

No but someone else would have. Much easier to kill him there.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2020, 02:12:14 PM »
Show me another example of an important assassination with a .38 to the stomach. It doesn't happen.

Why would you assume that Jack Ruby’s goal was to shoot Oswald in the stomach?

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No but someone else would have. Much easier to kill him there.

Someone else? How big a conspiracy do you believe in? Not sure where you get the “much easier” either. Are you saying that County was even more inept (or corrupt) than DPD?
« Last Edit: January 31, 2020, 02:15:33 PM by John Iacoletti »

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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: The real Jack Ruby
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2020, 02:58:16 PM »
Regroup some brain cells ---Does it occur to the mind that maybe...just perhaps.... a patsy doesn't know anything about the plot/& or crime he is being framed for? :-\
So now it's the "Oswald didn't know what happened to him?" argument. Did he or did he not have evidence about the conspiracy to kill JFK? Yes or no?

The specific claim being discussed is that Oswald was silenced/killed by Ruby and the DPD because he had knowledge/information that would have exposed the plot. That is the claim.

Again: If he had such knowledge then why allow him to talk to his family and others and also meet with the press? It makes no sense.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2020, 02:59:15 PM by Steve M. Galbraith »