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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: CE 2562
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2020, 05:24:06 AM »
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You think there's some significant weigh difference between a 7.35mm M91/38 and a 6.5mm M91/38? Do tell.

The Handbook also acknowledges the 6.5mm caliber.

You doing anything about it besides being a Smart Aleck?

When I first read it I thought that you were suggesting that I was being a smart aleck.

I doubt that there's a significant weight difference between the 7.35 and the 6.5. I was just questioning the accuracy of the numbers given in that handbook.

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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: CE 2562
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2020, 05:27:05 AM »
The Klein's February ad lists a Carcano at 5 1/2 lbs.

Tell me. Do you think the fellow who assembled the container and the fellow who picked it up had access to a scale that could weigh such weights? Or is it more likely that the customer phoned the shipper and said he was shipping 100 rifles that weighed 7 1/2 lbs each?

The ad was wrong in those particulars (no Carcano weighs 5 1/2 lbs). Also wrong is the illustration. However, Klein's was receiving 40" Carcanos at a dollar over the TS price, and in turn selling the 40" Carcanos for $12.88, the price in the ad.

That would mean the crate weighed 113 lbs.

Order no. and price reflect a 40" Carcano. Do you think Klein's were shipping the illustrated rifle?

Or were they just lax in updating things? It was the Print Age; no faxes or web sites.

More than a tip of the hat.

If you read CE 2562, you will note that the shipper - Lifschutz Fast Freight - lists the shipping weight, on their invoice.
Don't shippers charge by the pound?

The graphic you posted - thanks - shows 36" rifle, $19.95, 5.5 lbs. 40" rifle, 7.5 lbs.

Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: CE 2562
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2020, 05:29:49 AM »
You think there's some significant weigh difference between a 7.35mm M91/38 and a 6.5mm M91/38? Do tell.

The Handbook also acknowledges the 6.5mm caliber.

You doing anything about it besides being a Smart Aleck?

Just presenting the facts. From FBI and WC.

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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: CE 2562
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2020, 05:44:17 AM »
Just presenting the facts. From FBI and WC.

John, would you care to address my response to your#8 reply?

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2375.msg74210.html#msg74210

Offline Ross Lidell

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Re: CE 2562
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2020, 06:01:52 AM »
Irrelevant.
Ad shows only 40" rifle at 7.5 lbs.  Per Mr. Organ.

Immaterial.

Incidentally, what is the premise of your poorly worded Subject?
« Last Edit: January 15, 2020, 11:39:13 AM by Ross Lidell »

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Offline Jerry Organ

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Re: CE 2562
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2020, 02:31:18 PM »
John, would you care to address my response to your#8 reply?

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2375.msg74210.html#msg74210

He's not answering my questions, as well. His mind is made up; the rifles can only be TS-type and the shipping container has to be wood.

Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: CE 2562
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2020, 04:44:27 PM »
John, would you care to address my response to your#8 reply?

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2375.msg74210.html#msg74210

The ad shows the weight of the rifle, when shipped.  What Oswald did with it later is not the subject at hand.
CE 2562 shows the weight of 100 rifles, and carton, on their way to Klein's.  Long before C2766 ( allegedly) reaches Oswald.

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Offline John Tonkovich

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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2020, 05:56:03 PM »
Immaterial.

Incidentally, what is the premise of your poorly worded Subject?

My apologies for "poor wording".

No premise. Just facts.

The carton and rifles weighed 750 lbs. The 40" rifle weighed 7.5 lbs, in the ad provided by Mr. Organ.

100 x 7.5 = 750. Plus weight of carton.

CE 2562 is quite informative.