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Offline Denis Morissette

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Re: Is this a Mal Couch Clip?
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2020, 02:33:30 AM »
The best I have ever been able to do.

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Offline Royell Storing

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Re: Is this a Mal Couch Clip?
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2020, 08:35:10 PM »
The best is to order Breaking the News and Unsolved History on Amazon. About $10 each.

   "The Day Kennedy Died" DVD has roughly 9 seconds of very clear Couch footage at 33:08 - 33:17. This was done by the Smithsonian Channel and everything they do is Top Shelf visually. The segment they show reveals the South side of Elm St showing Apron Man and a DPD Cop West of him maybe 25-30 feet back from the curb. It also includes the segment showing Officer Haygood uprighting his motorcycle while the Chism's run by on the sidewalk. You can also make out the Hatted Wiegman inside of the camera car with the passenger door open, while a photog scramble to get inside while climbing over the trunk. Everything being relative, this is the Clearest Couch footage I have seen.

Offline Denis Morissette

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Re: Is this a Mal Couch Clip?
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2020, 11:00:46 PM »
I've just watched the Couch film in the Day JFK Died. I did not find it better than the Breaking News or Unsolved History versions.

Offline Markus Ell

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Re: Is this a Mal Couch Clip?
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2020, 03:49:02 PM »
Hello again,

tried again to filter out the face of the Babushka Lady from the couch film. Unfortunately, the result is still disappointing. Curiously, I have 2 versions in which I am not quite sure whether part of the face is visible (the round and angular contrast frames were created because I only selected and edited part of the face, unfortunately, it gives the impression that a different picture has been put over it, but this does not correspond to the facts. Only part of the face was processed in the picture, hence this unpleasant side effect with Gimp.). Here are the pictures again:




Personally, I think the former picture is the more "realistic" one (almost cynical to speak of realistic here). The second looks to me like "Lucky Luke" and realy not like a real person. For comparison, a strong oblique view of her face from an Allen photo:





Even about JFK: Breaking the news DVD version, I haven't been able to filter anything better so far, although it is of a fairly good quality. Maybe I will keep trying.

Best wishes

Markus

Offline Royell Storing

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Re: Is this a Mal Couch Clip?
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2020, 03:55:25 PM »
   Markus - Remember when Images do Not Mesh Up, you are operating under the assumption that All of the Images you are working with are Unaltered. You just might be drinking from an already Poisoned Well.
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Re: Is this a Mal Couch Clip?
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2020, 04:15:18 PM »
   Markus - Remember when Images do Not Mesh Up, you are operating under the assumption that All of the Images you are working with are Unaltered. You just might be drinking from an already Poisoned Well.

Hello Royell Storing and thank you for your post.

No doubt, the post-processing of pictures is not unproblematic and you run the risk that this will result in total nonsense or, as in my case, an unsightly effect that looks as if I had put another picture over it.

However, believe that you can not avoid the video film to rework or improve the quality of the couch film to make the face of the Babushka Lady more visible (if that is possible at all ??). Very difficult with this pixel porridge.

I hope that someone more capable than me may take up this couch problem. Maybe there are other ideas and approaches to learn more about the Babushka Lady.

Best wishes

Markus

Offline James Hackerott

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Re: Is this a Mal Couch Clip?
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2020, 02:35:32 AM »

At my visit to the Sixth Floor Museum's Reading Room I briefly viewed their Couch film scenes filmed in Dealey Plaza. I noted early in my notes that the museum's copy is slightly blurry, about the same as found in many documentary DVDs. I made a timeline of the scenes but made no mention of this clip in my notes. I don't know if I just missed it or it was not present. I do know that now I will pay very special attention to the museum's version for this scene. My hope is the clip is that their clip has enough clarity to determine a time stamp from the peristyle wall shadow.

I used an unexpected opportunity for a followup visit to Dealey Plaza last week. A week's weather forecast predicted sunny skies on the 27th. I planned one day for photography and a second half-day for the Reading Room. My goals for the Reading Room included viewing the museum's Mal Couch Dealey Plaza film for this rare clip. However, the clip is missing in each of two different presentations of the Couch film!  Interesting, huh?

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Re: Is this a Mal Couch Clip?
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2020, 05:20:05 PM »
I used an unexpected opportunity for a followup visit to Dealey Plaza last week. A week's weather forecast predicted sunny skies on the 27th. I planned one day for photography and a second half-day for the Reading Room. My goals for the Reading Room included viewing the museum's Mal Couch Dealey Plaza film for this rare clip. However, the clip is missing in each of two different presentations of the Couch film!  Interesting, huh?


Too bad. Nevertheless, thank you very much James for your efforts and the time invested.

The JFK: Breaking the news version uploaded by Denis Morissette is much clearer than most on You-Tube. Maybe it will help you?

Until then, good luck and all the best

Markus
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Offline James Hackerott

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Re: Is this a Mal Couch Clip?
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2020, 06:49:23 PM »
Too bad. Nevertheless, thank you very much James for your efforts and the time invested.

The JFK: Breaking the news version uploaded by Denis Morissette is much clearer than most on You-Tube. Maybe it will help you?

Until then, good luck and all the best

Markus
I spent a few minutes in the museum's gift shop (SW 1st floor of the DalTex building). They had at least a dozen of those DVDs on a shelf. I meant to return and buy one before I left Dallas, but forgot. So today, I've ordered a copy, and will have to pay postage and handling, ha ha.

 

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