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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald in New Orleans
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2020, 06:04:22 PM »
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Two weeks later? That’s some serious fleeing!

If they actually had any evidence that Oswald was the one who shot at Walker, would he have somehow been immune from prosecution in New Orleans, using his real name and not hiding?

Lee knew that the hoax attempt on Walker had flopped when he read the newspapers and learned the the police weren't seriously pursuing the Walker incident.  He scoffed at their ineptness and said that they couldn't even get the caliber of the rifle correct....  The police referred to the bullet as a 30.06  bullet.  (At least that's what the radio and newspapers were reporting)

There are 30.06 CARTRIDGES but there is no such bullet as a 30.06 bullet ( projectile) .....  There are 30 caliber bullets ( projectiles) that are used in many different rifles that are designed to utilize the 30 caliber bullets.   

Since the police report identified the spent projectile found at Walker's as a "steel jacketed 30.06 bullet" the erroneous identification must have originated with with the detective who investigated the incident.    When Lee learned that they were looking for a person with a 30.06 rifle he scoffed at their ineptness ....  He knew that the hoax plot had failed and they were not going to come looking for him , and he would not flee to Cuba.

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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2020, 06:55:35 PM »
Oswald confessed to his own wife on the very night of the Walker attempt!

Well he might have confessed to some other man's wife..... But the De Morenschildt's were out of town, that night.  ( De M wanted a solid alibi )

Lee did in fact tell Marina that he had fired a bullet through Walker's window.   ( he might have told her that he had tried to kill Walker, even though he had no such intent)    He wanted Marina to believe he had tried to kill Walker so when the police came looking for him she would tell them what he had said....and she would show them the fake dossier ( the blue note book) with the BY photo and the photos of Walker's house.   Thus he would appear to be a fugitive for attempting murder.  The story in the newspapers would have been convincing for Castro's agents, and Castro would probably granted Lee asylum in Cuba.   And that was the goal that Lee and his handler were hoping to achieve.   

So Oswald was involved in his own frame up?  And the plan was for him to wait around for the police to link him to the Walker crime, hope he wasn't home at that moment to be arrested, and that Marina would rat him out. But wait there is more!  Oswald would somehow have to make his way to Cuba.  If he succeeded, then it would be impossible to frame him for the JFK assassination since he would be in Cuba.  Similarly, if he was arrested he would have been in jail (a good alibi for the JFK assassination).  But for reasons that remain unclear, the "handlers" behind this elaborate plot (presumably an intelligence agency like the CIA) never do the most obvious thing.  An essential part of this fantasy.  Plant some evidence linking Oswald to the crime or at least pointing the DPD in his direction!  How about maybe Oswald leaves his rifle at the scene instead of burying it?  Instead the crime goes unsolved until after Oswald's death.  Rendering the whole operation, as fantasized here, entirely pointless.  Good grief.

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Re: Oswald in New Orleans
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2020, 07:15:08 PM »
So Oswald was involved in his own frame up?  And the plan was for him to wait around for the police to link him to the Walker crime, hope he wasn't home at that moment to be arrested, and that Marina would rat him out. But wait there is more!  Oswald would somehow have to make his way to Cuba.  If he succeeded, then it would be impossible to frame him for the JFK assassination since he would be in Cuba.  Similarly, if he was arrested he would have been in jail (a good alibi for the JFK assassination).  But for reasons that remain unclear, the "handlers" behind this elaborate plot (presumably an intelligence agency like the CIA) never do the most obvious thing.  An essential part of this fantasy.  Plant some evidence linking Oswald to the crime or at least pointing the DPD in his direction!  How about maybe Oswald leaves his rifle at the scene instead of burying it?  Instead the crime goes unsolved until after Oswald's death.  Rendering the whole operation, as fantasized here, entirely pointless.  Good grief.

If he succeeded, then it would be impossible to frame him for the JFK assassination since he would be in Cuba.

You are badly befuddled Mr "Smith"   .....   The Walker Hoax occurred in April of 1963.... The coup d ' etate occurred in November of 1963. 

If the Walker hoax had succeeded there may never have been a coup d 'etate.....  Because If Lee had learned that the Russians and their missiles had in fact cleared out of Cuba, then JFK would have been completely free to put more pressure on the CIA renegades who were causing all the problems by their attacks on Cuba and the Russian Ships that were in Cuba. ...   Who knows ...Perhaps the renegades who engineered the coup d' etate might have been in prison....and unable to promote the murder of JFK. 

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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Oswald in New Orleans
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2020, 07:23:13 PM »
You really should learn the facts ( perhaps , then you wouldn't appear as such a duffus)

Only an ignorant duffus would post the photo labeled CE 133C and claim that Lee had Marina take THREE  BY photos.    There is no Commission Exhibit as CE 133C

The Photo never even appeared until years after the Warren Commission was disband.   
Swell, the third photo appeared after the WC ended and that makes it fake? Or irrelevant to my point? Did or did not Oswald dress up in this costume and have Marina photograph him?

Shortly before the attempt on Walker Oswald dressed up in this outfit and had Marina photograph him. If you want to refute that then try.
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Offline Jerry Organ

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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2020, 07:37:22 PM »
You really should learn the facts ( perhaps , then you wouldn't appear as such a duffus)

Only an ignorant duffus would post the photo labeled CE 133C and claim that Lee had Marina take THREE  BY photos.    There is no Commission Exhibit as CE 133C

The Photo never even appeared until years after the Warren Commission was disband.   

But if the WC had entered the third pose into evidence, chances are they would have labelled it "CE 133C". The HSCA must have thought along those lines, as they labelled "CE 133C" as such in 1978.

You and I needn't be so nitpicky with all the spelling mistakes we make.

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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2020, 08:02:03 PM »
But if the WC had entered the third pose into evidence, chances are they would have labelled it "CE 133C". The HSCA must have thought along those lines, as they labelled "CE 133C" as such in 1978.

You and I needn't be so nitpicky with all the spelling mistakes we make.
Of course, I never said these were from the Warren Commission. I grabbed them from a quick search and posted them. Whether they were from the WC or HSCA or elsewhere is irrelevant to my point about the behavior/nature of Oswald (as I see it).

As to the HSCA labeling, this is what they included (they named/labeled it 133-c): https://www.maryferrell.org/photos.html?set=HSCA-EXHIBITS

Corrected link: https://www.maryferrell.org/archive/photos/HSCA-EXHIBITS/Photo_hsca_ex_178.jpg
« Last Edit: January 06, 2020, 09:28:13 PM by Steve M. Galbraith »

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald in New Orleans
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2020, 08:27:02 PM »
The question was: Why did LHO go to New Orleans? Whether or not Nixon was actually there isn’t relevant to the question. Marina apparently believed what she said LHO told her. And this was a contributing factor in the decision to go to New Orleans.

I don’t understand. Are you saying that it was Marina’s decision for Lee to go to New Orleans, because she believed he wanted to take a look at Nixon?

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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Oswald in New Orleans
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2020, 08:31:29 PM »
If he succeeded, then it would be impossible to frame him for the JFK assassination since he would be in Cuba.

You are badly befuddled Mr "Smith"   .....   The Walker Hoax occurred in April of 1963.... The coup d ' etate occurred in November of 1963. 

If the Walker hoax had succeeded there may never have been a coup d 'etate.....  Because If Lee had learned that the Russians and their missiles had in fact cleared out of Cuba, then JFK would have been completely free to put more pressure on the CIA renegades who were causing all the problems by their attacks on Cuba and the Russian Ships that were in Cuba. ...   Who knows ...Perhaps the renegades who engineered the coup d' etate might have been in prison....and unable to promote the murder of JFK.

You have gone beyond fiction here to science fiction.  But try to focus.  You allege that the plan was to link Oswald to the Walker attempt in order for him to gain entry to Cuba as a spy.   Or something along those lines.  But no evidence is left at the crime scene for the authorities to link Oswald to the crime - the entire purpose of this alleged hoax.  Why wouldn't they leave something or somehow put the authorities onto Oswald as a suspect if that was the entire purpose of this plot?  It wouldn't be very difficult.  CTers certainly believe they organized an elaborate frame up of Oswald to link him to the JFK assassination but here there not so much.  And when the trail grows cold they do nothing.   Do you see the obvious fallacy in suggesting that the entire purpose of the Walker attempt was to link it to Oswald but then planting no evidence to do so?