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Offline Peter Kleinschmidt

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Re: Did Jack Dougherty know how to count?
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2020, 04:21:09 AM »
Dougherty would probably be classified as being on the Autism Spectrum today.

Friends of mine have a son who is autistic; and said he has no idea about the value of numbers. He can't do math at all, and once told me he can ski 300mph. He has a job helping to teach autistic kids how to ski, but he screws up anything to do with numbers.

Friends of mine have a son who is autistic

Really? First of all, you don't have any friends, but if you are able to make a friend or two in the future I will not be surprised at the claim of someone having an autistic child which BTW I would not believe. Everybody has an autistic child on a gluten-free diet, both connected to global warming, oops, I mean climate change

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Did Jack Dougherty know how to count?
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2020, 04:40:41 AM »
Friends of mine have a son who is autistic

Really? First of all, you don't have any friends, but if you are able to make a friend or two in the future I will not be surprised at the claim of someone having an autistic child which BTW I would not believe. Everybody has an autistic child on a gluten-free diet, both connected to global warming, oops, I mean climate change

 :'( Kleinschmuck

Offline Peter Kleinschmidt

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Re: Did Jack Dougherty know how to count?
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2020, 05:01:36 AM »
:'( Kleinschmuck

I knew I was right.

How is that gluten-free diet, have you found a good cookie recipe yet?

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Did Jack Dougherty know how to count?
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2020, 05:26:08 AM »
I knew I was right.

How is that gluten-free diet, have you found a good cookie recipe yet?

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Re: Did Jack Dougherty know how to count?
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2020, 06:12:08 PM »
What isn't guesswork is that Brennan often prefaced his responses, in testimony, with 'appeared to be'... which in turn speaks to the fact that he apparently didn't realize that the windows were so close to the floor.

And color and the terms used to describe it is purely subjective; not-to-mention that strong sunlight can lighten any color.

Brennan was manipulated by the WC attorneys.....so his WC testimony isn't the 100% truth....  I use his affidavit, which he gave only about an hour after the murder.

he apparently didn't realize that the windows were so close to the floor.

This is the lame brain response that LNer's have been using for decades...  If any LNer could comprehend what Howard Brennan wrote they probably wouldn't use such a stupid response.    Howard Brennan said that the man with the HIGH POWERED rifle ( ie Hunting rifle) who was dressed in light colored khaki clothing was STANDING ( and he knew that because ) he could see... Quote..."THE MAN FROM HIS BELT UP."... unquote

If the 175 pound man who was dressed in light colored khaki clothing had been kneeling or sitting behind a sixth floor window, Brennan could not have seen the entire upper portion of the man from his belt up.....because Brennan was looking up at about a 30 degree angle and therefore the portion of the building beneath the window would have occluded 75% of the man.   If the man had been kneeling Brennan would only have seen his head and shoulders....But he was specific   He said that he saw the man place the high powered rifle down at his side and then step back from the window.
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Re: Did Jack Dougherty know how to count?
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2020, 07:47:30 PM »
Brennan was manipulated by the WC attorneys[/b].....so his WC testimony isn't the 100% truth....  I use his affidavit, which he gave only about an hour after the murder.

he apparently didn't realize that the windows were so close to the floor.

This is the lame brain response that LNer's have been using for decades...  If any LNer could comprehend what Howard Brennan wrote they probably wouldn't use such a stupid response.    Howard Brennan said that the man with the HIGH POWERED rifle ( ie Hunting rifle) who was dressed in light colored khaki clothing was STANDING ( and he knew that because ) he could see... Quote..."THE MAN FROM HIS BELT UP."... unquote

If the 175 pound man who was dressed in light colored khaki clothing had been kneeling or sitting behind a sixth floor window, Brennan could not have seen the entire upper portion of the man from his belt up.....because Brennan was looking up at about a 30 degree angle and therefore the portion of the building beneath the window would have occluded 75% of the man.   If the man had been kneeling Brennan would only have seen his head and shoulders....But he was specific   He said that he saw the man place the high powered rifle down at his side and then step back from the window.

Fact: Brennan testified that Jarman & Williams appeared to be standing
Fact: Jarman and Williams were actually kneeling
Ergo: Brennan did not realize the windows were so close to the floor

Brennan was manipulated by the WC attorneys
>>> Some Advice: Make sure you don't confuse opinion with fact
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Re: Did Jack Dougherty know how to count?
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2020, 08:34:39 PM »
Fact: Brennan testified that Jarman & Williams appeared to be standing
Fact: Jarman and Williams were actually kneeling
Ergo: Brennan did not realize the windows were so close to the floor

Brennan was manipulated by the WC attorneys
>>> Some Advice: Make sure you don't confuse opinion with fact

Do you have trouble concentrating on the subject being discussed? We are NOT discussing the three stooges....Howard Brennan's statement that he could see all of the man FROM HIS BELT UP as the man STOOD and aimed the high powered rifle out of a window is the subject ....   

It makes not an iota of difference if Brennan was lead by the shyster WC attorney to say he thought the three stooges were standing on boxes .....They are not the subject.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Did Jack Dougherty know how to count?
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2020, 10:36:52 PM »
Do you have trouble concentrating on the subject being discussed? We are NOT discussing the three stooges....Howard Brennan's statement that he could see all of the man FROM HIS BELT UP as the man STOOD and aimed the high powered rifle out of a window is the subject ....   

It makes not an iota of difference if Brennan was lead by the shyster WC attorney to say he thought the three stooges were standing on boxes .....They are not the subject.

The fact that Brennan didn't realize the 6th floor TSBD windows were so close to the floor is of tantamount importance. That fact informs Brennan's 'appeared to me' responses in testimony.


Jarman/Williams posItions at TSBD windows
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Re: Did Jack Dougherty know how to count?
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2020, 08:50:32 PM »
The fact that Brennan didn't realize the 6th floor TSBD windows were so close to the floor is of tantamount importance. That fact informs Brennan's 'appeared to me' responses in testimony.


Jarman/Williams posItions at TSBD windows

The position of the three stooges  is irrelevant ..... Brennan clearly stated that he saw the 175 pound man who was wearing light colored khaki clothing.and was aiming   the hunting rifle while STANDING so that Brennan was able to see his entire upper body FROM HIS BELT UP.

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Re: Did Jack Dougherty know how to count?
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2020, 10:28:43 PM »
Chapman is correct that a person not knowing how close the windows were to the floor could reasonably assume that a kneeling person was standing.

However, in the case of the alleged sixth floor shooter, there were boxes in and by the window that would make it impossible to see a kneeling person "from the belt up" at the time of the head shot.

Rather than leaping to a conclusion that Brennan "forgot" what window he was talking about, I claim that it's more logical to suspect that Brennan -- a known serial embellisher -- embellished certain details after the fact.

 

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