A Guilty Man

[Charles Collins]

<<< Oswald's rifle rwaaaak
So...it took the FBI 5 yrs to catch Rudolph but then it only took the Keystone Cops 80 minutes to grab Oswald [40 yrs earlier]

So...it took the FBI 5 yrs to catch Rudolph but then it only took the Keystone Cops 80 minutes to grab Oswald [40 yrs earlier]


It is amazing to me that LHO even managed to escape the TSBD immediately after the shooting. And I cannot help but believe that he was very surprised also. It appears to me that LHO didn't really expect to get away from the TSBD and didn't have much time to plan his escape anyway. The Centennial Olympic Park bomber planned everything well ahead of time. He actually had built a total of 5 bombs and planned to detonate them on consecutive nights. But decided against that plan after the first one; and detonated the other four bombs in a wooded area to the east of Atlanta. He might not have ever been caught if he had quit at that point. But his agenda was to keep going and he bombed three more locations (unrelated to the Olympics) before someone saw him running away from the last one and wrote down his tag number when he got into his vehicle. His well laid plans to hide out in the wilderness was foiled by bears (who dug up his buried food stashes) and ate them. And he consequently lost over 50-pounds surviving on bugs and acorns before getting some help from an acquaintance. In the end, a rookie cop in a small town apprehended him (not the FBI).

[John Iacoletti]

Not what Lattimer, "Target Car" and the Haags claimed to be doing anyway. They were duplicating a Carcano bullet passing though replicas of humans to see if slowing and tumbling of the bullet would result in a condition similar to CE 399. That's what rational people do in a criminal case with a mystery; they assume nothing until they've conducted experiments and tests.

Doing tests to see if something is possible doesn’t solve any mystery. And it’s not true that they are assuming nothing. They are assuming that CE 399 was actually fired at the motorcade.

Can you prove he wasn't wrong in that regard?

No, and I’m making no such claim as to the provenance of CE399, you are.

Feel free to present an alternative scenario that's more rational.

What’s rational is to say “I don’t know” when you don’t know something rather than making up a solution and assuming it’s correct until it can be proven wrong.

Many things in a crime case can't be proven conclusively or to an absolute.

I’m comfortable with a reasonable doubt standard. There isn’t an aspect of this case that doesn’t have grounds for reasonable doubt.

There's no time travel yet, and most events weren't captured on film. Human memory is fallible.

Agreed, but you don’t practice what you preach. You’re fine with human memory when it suits your conclusions.

Reasonable people use common sense to assess the totality of the evidence.

One person’s “common sense” is another person’s unsubstantiated conjecture.

[Walt Cakebread]

So...it took the FBI 5 yrs to catch Rudolph but then it only took the Keystone Cops 80 minutes to grab Oswald [40 yrs earlier]


It is amazing to me that LHO even managed to escape the TSBD immediately after the shooting. And I cannot help but believe that he was very surprised also. It appears to me that LHO didn't really expect to get away from the TSBD and didn't have much time to plan his escape anyway. The Centennial Olympic Park bomber planned everything well ahead of time. He actually had built a total of 5 bombs and planned to detonate them on consecutive nights. But decided against that plan after the first one; and detonated the other four bombs in a wooded area to the east of Atlanta. He might not have ever been caught if he had quit at that point. But his agenda was to keep going and he bombed three more locations (unrelated to the Olympics) before someone saw him running away from the last one and wrote down his tag number when he got into his vehicle. His well laid plans to hide out in the wilderness was foiled by bears (who dug up his buried food stashes) and ate them. And he consequently lost over 50-pounds surviving on bugs and acorns before getting some help from an acquaintance. In the end, a rookie cop in a small town apprehended him (not the FBI).

he consequently lost over 50-pounds

Wow!...  He could have become wealthy ...   There are so many obese women who would have paid him dearly to learn how they could lose 50 pounds.

[Charles Collins]

he consequently lost over 50-pounds

Wow!...  He could have become wealthy ...   There are so many obese women who would have paid him dearly to learn how they could lose 50 pounds.

He is still alive and imprisoned without the possibility of ever getting out in his lifetime. Maybe you could contact him and offer to be his business agent in this brilliant idea of yours.

[Walt Cakebread]

He is still alive and imprisoned without the possibility of ever getting out in his lifetime. Maybe you could contact him and offer to be his business agent in this brilliant idea of yours.

Go eat a bug......

[Jack Trojan]

Not what Lattimer, "Target Car" and the Haags claimed to be doing anyway. They were duplicating a Carcano bullet passing though replicas of humans to see if slowing and tumbling of the bullet would result in a condition similar to CE 399. That's what rational people do in a criminal case with a mystery; they assume nothing until they've conducted experiments and tests.

Can you prove he wasn't wrong in that regard?

Feel free to present an alternative scenario that's more rational.

Many things in a crime case can't be proven conclusively or to an absolute. There's no time travel yet, and most events weren't captured on film. Human memory is fallible.

Reasonable people use common sense to assess the totality of the evidence.

Still waiting for you to address why the magic bullet caused so much damage and turned out pristine and the head shot bullet exploded and disintegrated in JFK's head. Weren't they both full metal jacketed bullets that don't typically explode? This should be good. 

[Bill Chapman]

Still waiting for you to address why the magic bullet caused so much damage and turned out pristine and the head shot bullet exploded and disintegrated in JFK's head. Weren't they both full metal jacketed bullets that don't typically explode? This should be good. 

... 'that don't typically explode'
>>> when passing through soft flesh. There. I finished that sentence off for you.

[Jerry Organ]

Still waiting for you to address why the magic bullet caused so much damage and turned out pristine and the head shot bullet exploded and disintegrated in JFK's head. Weren't they both full metal jacketed bullets that don't typically explode? This should be good. 

    "Haag also found through testing – as did John K. Lattimer and
     military wound ballistician Larry M. Sturdivan – that the WCC
     Carcano bullet had the ability to “totally change character” and
     behave more like a soft-point hunting bullet, yawing and deflecting,
     when its nose-area was breeched by striking thick skull bone.

          -- Dale K. Myers, reviewing "The Unique and Misunderstood
              Wound Ballistics in the John F. Kennedy Assassination"
              by Lucien C. Haag, The American Journal of Forensic
              Medicine and Pathology, December 2019

Haag appeared in the 2013 NOVA show. Lattimer and Sturdivan have published ballistics research on Carcano bullets in books and peer-reviewed articles.

I am still waiting for you to provide comparable ballistics tests that counter the findings of Lattimer, Sturdivan and the Haags.