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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"
« Reply #130 on: January 05, 2020, 01:52:26 PM »
No I didnít. Your point is moot. Thatís my point.
Your point is pointless. I was responding to Mytton's pointlessness.

Offline Jerry Organ

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Re: Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"
« Reply #131 on: January 05, 2020, 02:47:24 PM »
Presumption of innocence is an American right by due process guaranteed by the 5th and 14th amendments. It was taken from British law.
Oswald was pronounced guilty by accusation.

If one is presumed innocent at every stage, how can anyone be charged of a crime to begin with?

Is the "presumption of innocence" confined to the trial stage?

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"
« Reply #132 on: January 06, 2020, 03:35:38 AM »
If one is presumed innocent at every stage, how can anyone be charged of a crime to begin with? Is the "presumption of innocence" confined to the trial stage?
I understand that one is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law or admits guilt of their own accord. Now if I can understand it.....

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"
« Reply #133 on: January 06, 2020, 06:41:47 AM »
If one is presumed innocent at every stage, how can anyone be charged of a crime to begin with?

Is the "presumption of innocence" confined to the trial stage?

As far as I know, this is the second time you've asked this question. You really think you are somehow being clever here, right?

Apparently, you have still not understood that you can be suspected of having committed a crime, and even be arrested and charged for it, while at the same time being considered legally presumed innocent until proven guilty in court.

Offline Jerry Organ

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Re: Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"
« Reply #134 on: January 06, 2020, 06:28:07 PM »
As far as I know, this is the second time you've asked this question. You really think you are somehow being clever here, right?

A few CTs keep raising the point, sometimes justifying their lack of need to prove a conspiracy.

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Apparently, you have still not understood that you can be suspected of having committed a crime, and even be arrested and charged for it, while at the same time being considered legally presumed innocent until proven guilty in court.

Where's the "presumption of innocence" if you can be charged and locked up? Doesn't seem to work at the pre-trial stages.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"
« Reply #135 on: January 06, 2020, 07:00:39 PM »
As far as I know, this is the second time you've asked this question. You really think you are somehow being clever here, right?

Apparently, you have still not understood that you can be suspected of having committed a crime, and even be arrested and charged for it, while at the same time being considered legally presumed innocent until proven guilty in court.

This is the basis for reading the Miranda to a suspect....   The suspect must be made aware that he  or she has the right to remain silent and they do not have to answer any questions from the police until they have a attorney at their side.   

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"
« Reply #136 on: January 07, 2020, 04:10:58 AM »
Focus on the case and connect the dots.

Done



Sigmar Polke
Portrait of Lee Harvey Oswald
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Cologne/VG Bild-Kunst, Bonn 2016. Photo: Wolfgang Morell
« Last Edit: January 07, 2020, 04:19:42 AM by Bill Chapman »

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"
« Reply #137 on: January 07, 2020, 05:34:06 PM »
Done



Sigmar Polke
Portrait of Lee Harvey Oswald
Privatsammlung - © The Estate of Sigmar Polke,
Cologne/VG Bild-Kunst, Bonn 2016. Photo: Wolfgang Morell


That looks like JFK with the back of his head blown away.....

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"
« Reply #138 on: January 07, 2020, 07:19:26 PM »
That looks like JFK with the back of his head blown away.....

Yikes!

 

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