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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #152 on: February 20, 2018, 10:55:41 PM »
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His autopsy was not illegal. The Secret Service officers suspected that the assassination was the result of a conspiracy. A conspiracy would have made it a Federal crime. They were justified under Title 18 , Part 1, Chapter 19 of the US Code in removing the body from Dallas.

Please cite any evidence of the Secret Service using this justification at the time.

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #153 on: February 20, 2018, 11:10:10 PM »
Try all you want but you'll never get around the fact that the Feds were legally justified in removing JFK's body under 18 U.S. Code ? 372.

You're blowing smoke.  18 U.S. Code ? 372 doesn't say anything about seizing evidence.  Nor have you shown any evidence that federal investigative or prosecutive jurisdiction was ever asserted.

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #154 on: February 20, 2018, 11:44:36 PM »
You're blowing smoke.  18 U.S. Code ? 372 doesn't say anything about seizing evidence.  Nor have you shown any evidence that federal investigative or prosecutive jurisdiction was ever asserted.

Conspiracy to assassinate the President was a federal crime under 18 U.S. Code ? 372. That gives the Feds the authority to seize evidence. The Feds asserted their investigative or prosecutive jurisdiction when they removed JFK's body from Dallas.

 

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #155 on: February 21, 2018, 12:02:05 AM »
Conspiracy to assassinate the President was a federal crime under 18 U.S. Code ? 372. That gives the Feds the authority to seize evidence. The Feds asserted their investigative or prosecutive jurisdiction when they removed JFK's body from Dallas.

Talk about a circular argument.

Be specific.  What statute gave the feds the authority to seize evidence from a state investigation?  18 U.S. Code ? 372 doesn't.

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #156 on: February 21, 2018, 12:11:16 AM »
Talk about a circular argument.

What statute gave the feds the authority to seize evidence from a state investigation?  18 U.S. Code ? 372 doesn't.


18 U.S. Code ? 372

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #157 on: February 21, 2018, 12:18:34 AM »

18 U.S. Code ? 372



*Since, as indicated earlier in the text, in 1963 there was no federal jurisdiction over the murder of President Kennedy on a Dallas street (as opposed to on federal property), how did the FBI, a federal agency, even have jurisdiction to investigate the murder? Under Title 18 of Section 372 in the U.S. Code, it was a federal crime (no matter where committed) to conspire to murder any federal official on account of, or while he was engaged in, the lawful discharge of his duties, language that would have covered the murder of the president. And at the time of the assassination, in the eyes of many, including President Johnson, the possibility of a conspiracy was very real. However, the Warren Commission acknowledged that ?once it became reasonably clear [they never identified this point in time] that the killing was the act of a single person, the State of Texas had exclusive jurisdiction?[and the FBI handled the investigation thereafter] only upon the sufferance of the local authorities.? (WR, pp.454, 456; 5 H 25, WCT Alan H. Belmont; Cushman, ?Why the Warren Commission?? pp.478?479) The above in no way militates against the inherent power of President Johnson to have established, by executive order (11130), the Warren Commission, or that of Congress (by Senate Joint Resolution 137) to have empowered the Commission to issue subpoenas and grant immunity in carrying out its mandate. It only deals with the issue of whether Texas law enforcement or the FBI had investigative jurisdiction over the case
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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #158 on: February 21, 2018, 09:21:43 PM »
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Not even the Bug-man tries to make the silly argument that 18 U.S. Code ? 372 authorizes the seizing of evidence.  If the feds really thought they were acting under 18 U.S. Code ? 372, they wouldn't have bothered just requesting that the Dallas PD send them all the other evidence on 11/22.

Tim is just making an after-the-fact rationalization.

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #159 on: February 22, 2018, 08:41:25 PM »
It's not possible to drive though a city avoiding high buildings with open windows.

In Dallas they could of voided Elm Street altogether.  You are correct though but the SS should be ensuring no windows are open and no one on roofs.  Shame they forgot that rule on that particular day