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Offline Jerry Organ

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Jerry Ford moved the back wound to the neck in the final draft of the WCR.


You're making it sound like he just willy-nilly shifted the wound site to be as far away as possible from the back. But what he actually did was better-describe its true position as at the base of the back of the neck.

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The Clark Panel moved a EOP bullet hole on JFK's skull an incredible 4 inches to the cowlick.

And you're making it sound like the Clark Panel had literally seen an "EOP bullet hole" on the skull bone. But what they actually did was truthfully describe the back-of-the-scalp bullet hole seen in autopsy photograph and where they interpreted it on a lateral X-ray.

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Offline Gary Craig

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You're making it sound like he just willy-nilly shifted the wound site to be as far away as possible from the back. But what he actually did was better-describe its true position as at the base of the back of the neck.

And you're making it sound like the Clark Panel had literally seen an "EOP bullet hole" on the skull bone. But what they actually did was truthfully describe the back-of-the-scalp bullet hole seen in autopsy photograph and where they interpreted it on a lateral X-ray.

"You're making it sound like he just willy-nilly shifted the wound site to be as far away as possible from the back. But what he actually did was better-describe its true position as at the base of the back of the neck."

Ford's changes were a lie told to perpetuate Arlen Spector's "Magic Bullet" fairytale.

His edit made it sound like the back wound was above the neck wound.

The WC had color autopsy photos of JFK's body.

Rankin told an executive session of the WC that the autopsy photo showed the back wound was below

the neck wound.

Rankin tells McCloy they have color photos of JFK's body from the autopsy


Rankin tells an executive session of the WC that they have a picture that shows the wound in JFK's back is lower than the one in the front of his neck.


Report from the autopsy says Dr. Humes located a bullet hole in JFK, below the shoulder.

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Offline Gary Craig

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You're making it sound like he just willy-nilly shifted the wound site to be as far away as possible from the back. But what he actually did was better-describe its true position as at the base of the back of the neck.

And you're making it sound like the Clark Panel had literally seen an "EOP bullet hole" on the skull bone. But what they actually did was truthfully describe the back-of-the-scalp bullet hole seen in autopsy photograph and where they interpreted it on a lateral X-ray.

"And you're making it sound like the Clark Panel had literally seen an "EOP bullet hole" on the skull bone. But what they actually did was truthfully describe the back-of-the-scalp bullet hole seen in autopsy photograph and where they interpreted it on a lateral X-ray."

The autopsy doctors held JFK's skull in their hands and they held their position of a EOP entrance wound

until their deaths.

The Clark Panel decided:

http://www.history-matters.com/essays/jfkmed/How5Investigations/How5InvestigationsGotItWrong_2.htm

HOW FIVE INVESTIGATIONS INTO JFK?S MEDICAL/AUTOPSY EVIDENCE GOT IT WRONG
Gary L. Aguilar, MD and Kathy Cunningham

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"....Based on evaluations of presumably the same pictures and X-rays, the Clark Panel, the Rockefeller Commission and the HSCA later concluded that ?the wound? ? the entrance site of the fatal bullet in JFK?s head ? was not just  ?slightly higher? in the images, but 4 inches higher. This is scarcely a negligible discrepancy, given that the area of the back of the head in which it was concluded there had been a 4 inch error only measures, top-to-bottom about 5 &1/2 inches. Nowhere in either of the 1966 or 1967 reviews did JFK?s pathologists acknowledge there was a huge disparity between the wounds in their autopsy report and those in ?their? pictures and X-rays. Moreover, on the question of the fragments in the X-ray, the pathologists failed to mention that the antero-posterior trail of fragments in the lateral X-ray are in an entirely different location than specified in their autopsy report....."

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"Lateral X-Ray taken during the autopsy of President Kennedy, showing a trail of apparent metal fragments high in the skull. The Clark Panel's declaration that the line described by these fragments "passes through the above-mentioned hole" [i.e, the bullet entrance] is not accurate. The "above-mentioned hole" can be seen as a step-off, or a crack, in the skull at the left side of the skull. Anyone can see that, as the House Select Committee was later to report, the "trail" of fragments is considerably higher than the step-off, ion fact, 4-cm higher, according to the Select Committee."

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"Worse yet, the Panel incorrectly described the trail?s true position as, ?on lateral film #2 this (fragment) formation(?s) long axis, if extended posteriorly, passes through the above-mentioned (new entrance) hole.?[184] That fragment trail does not line up with the presumed higher entrance hole. As one of the authors (Aguilar) determined by looking at the original X-rays, the trail lies noticeably higher than that level. This is not a new discovery. In 1978, HSCA expert radiologist David O. Davis, MD reported that the trail extended, ?anteriorly from the inner table of the skull at a point approximately 6-cm. antero-superiorly from the previously described embedded metallic fragment.?

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Two separate investigations, two separate wounds to JFK's skull.

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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Good posts, Gary.

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"Examination of photographs of anterior and posterior views of thorax, and anterior, posterior and lateral views of neck (Photographs 3, 4, 6, 9, 10, 11, 12, 15, 17, 18, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 38, 39, 40, 41). There is an elliptical penetrating wound of the skin of the back located approximately 15 cm. medial to the right acromial process, 5 cm. lateral to the mid-dorsal line and 14 cm. below the right mastoid process. This wound lies approximately 5.5 cm. below a transverse fold in the skin of the neck. This fold can also be seen in a lateral view of the neck which shows an anterior tracheotomy wound. This view makes it possible to compare the levels of these two wounds in relation to that of the horizontal plane of the body. A well defined zone of discoloration of the edge of the back wound, most pronounced on its upper and outer margins, identifies it as having the characteristics of the entrance wound of a bullet. The wound with its marginal abrasion measures approximately 7 mm. in width by 10 mm. in length. The dimensions of this cutaneous wound are consistent with those of a wound produced by a bullet similar to that which constitutes exhibit CE 399. At the site of and above the tracheotomy incision in the front of the neck, there can be identified the upper half of the circumference of a circular cutaneous wound the appearance of which is characteristic of that of the exit wound of a bullet. The lower half of this circular wound is obscured by the surgically produced tracheotomy incision which transects it. The center of the circular wound is situated approximately 9 cm. below the transverse fold in the skin of the neck described in a preceding paragraph. This indicates that the bullet which produced the two wounds followed a course downward and to the left in Its passage through the body."

http://www.jfklancer.com/ClarkPanel.html


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Offline Gary Craig

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Bottom line, the description of the location of the hole in JFK's back was changed in the final draft of the

WCR to accommodate Arlen Spector's theory about a Magic Bullet causing seven wounds in JFK & JBC.

When public criticism of the WC caused the government to re-examine the autopsy photos , x-rays etc,

a photo of JFK's right lung and chest cavity, that would have showed the direction and path of that missile,

was nowhere to be found.

The same criticism noted the entry point low on the back of JFK's skull, from a bullet fired from the

6th floor SE corner TSBD, doesn't jibe with the official account of the damage. Another

government re-examination of the autopsy materials found the photos of the hole in JFK's skull at the

EOP were not in the archive. Those photos, of the inside and outside of the skull bone,

where the bullet entered, were taken specifically to show cratering.

Cratering indicates the direction the missile was fired from.

Not long after, the Clark Panel decided the original autopsy had got it wrong. It determined the photos and

x-rays show the entry point was 4 inches higher, at the cowlick. The x-rays show a trail of metal

particles high on JFK's skull. Caused, apparently, by the path of a disintegrating projectile.

Two seperate government investigations, two seperate wounds to JFK's head.

Deal with it.


"They have everything to do with what we were discussing before you decided to divert away.

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Excluding the line that has been added to the bottom one, do you accept those two photos as being authentic? Yes or no."


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Formatting: Tell us why you hit the Return key while still on the same sentence. It seems you have used typewriters at some point. Keep in mind that the size of this panel expands/shrinks as opposed to an actual sheet of paper.

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Offline Lee Wotton

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If you are not interested in people's opinions why start the post? Now tell me where that shooter was for the shot through the windshield and where did the bullet go? Full body x-rays were made of the president's body and no bullet was found. How do you know your non-magic bullet was a hollow point? Talk about no evidence.

You don't get it do you?  So I won't waste any more time on you.  My post was for opinions backed up with ome form of cited evidence not your life story of you impersonating Elmer Fudd with your hunting rifle.  That's plain pitiful.

Full body X rays? ok great show me the one of JFK's right lung then Einstein