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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #88 on: December 12, 2019, 04:49:42 PM »
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Well, critics have fired Carcano bullets nose-on at full-velocity into cow bones and proclaimed it was under the same conditions as the bullet that struck Connally's wrist.

They concluded that since they got mushroomed bullets then the "pristine" Magic Bullet had no part in the assassination. As far as they're concerned, they have tested the theory and have physical proof through testing that it is "stupid" or "miraculous".


Jerry,

Are you aware of a test where a Carcano bullet at any velocity was fired into bones and ended up near pristine as CE399?

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Online Jerry Organ

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #89 on: December 12, 2019, 05:04:57 PM »
Jerry,

Are you aware of a test where a Carcano bullet at any velocity was fired into bones and ended up near pristine as CE399?

You mean nose-on at full-velocity, or can I cite tests that made the bullet tumble first?

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #90 on: December 12, 2019, 05:13:46 PM »

The exact positions of Kennedy and Connally relative to each other at the moment of the shot(s), the exact posture of Kennedy at the moment of the shot(s), the exact location of the car at the moment of the shot(s). There has been 56 years of discussions about this and there is still no mutual agreement.


We don't need to know those variables to exactness to be able to say whether the SBT works or not. We know them to approximation. The SBT works within those measured judgments.

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The "three shots fired" scenario is just about the only thing they ever looked at. The "three shots hit" scenario was the initial assumption until they found they only had two bullets left to account for all the wounds which of course was why the SBT was concocted.

They looked for evidence of more than three shots but couldn't find any. The SBT wasn't concocted. It was a conclusion reached after a thorough consideration of the evidence.

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Numerous attempts? Really... pray tell which official investigative body did them?

Not official investigative bodies. Kook theorists mostly. Usually more than three shots involved , from multiple directions.

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #91 on: December 12, 2019, 05:15:01 PM »
Jerry,

Are you aware of a test where a Carcano bullet at any velocity was fired into bones and ended up near pristine as CE399?

I don't know about Jerry, but I am.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #92 on: December 12, 2019, 07:18:12 PM »

We don't need to know those variables to exactness to be able to say whether the SBT works or not. We know them to approximation. The SBT works within those measured judgments.

They looked for evidence of more than three shots but couldn't find any. The SBT wasn't concocted. It was a conclusion reached after a thorough consideration of the evidence.

Not official investigative bodies. Kook theorists mostly. Usually more than three shots involved , from multiple directions.

We don't need to know those variables to exactness to be able to say whether the SBT works or not. We know them to approximation. The SBT works within those measured judgments.

Well, with "approximations" and "measured judgments" (whatever that is supposed to be) you can get anything to fit.

They looked for evidence of more than three shots but couldn't find any.

Yeah right, sure they did....

The SBT wasn't concocted. It was a conclusion reached after a thorough consideration of the evidence.

If you say so.....

Not official investigative bodies. Kook theorists mostly. Usually more than three shots involved , from multiple directions.

Exactly... No official investigative body has ever seriously looked into other possible scenarios.

Three shots and a lone gunman, that was all they wanted to know.

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #93 on: December 12, 2019, 10:12:39 PM »
Well, critics have fired Carcano bullets nose-on at full-velocity into cow bones and proclaimed it was under the same conditions as the bullet that struck Connally's wrist.

They concluded that since they got mushroomed bullets then the "pristine" Magic Bullet had no part in the assassination. As far as they're concerned, they have tested the theory and have physical proof through testing that it is "stupid" or "miraculous".


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You guys are so full of spombleprofglidnoctobuns. You never look at the big picture. You always focus on one element that you think you can discredit without any justification. You have to use logic and critical thinking to resolve this. Not only was CE-399 in near-pristine condition after smashing thru bones, it had no DNA on it and it showed up on the wrong stretcher. Full stop. How much more evidence do you non-critical thinkers need to know CE-399 was...



And when are any of you cheap, lazy LNers going to post the results of my 2 laser challenge, which is the ONLY way you are going to PROVE that the Magic Bullet was possible. As a bonus you get the benefit of watching me eat crow, which is surely enough incentive for you to do the damn experiment.

It's pretty funny watching you try to rationalize how your internet graphics support that there was a valid trajectory from the 6th floor of the TSBD entering JFK's back at the T1 vertebrae then exiting thru JFK's throat (before tumbling into Connally) at the C7 vertebrae. None of your BS graphics have verified anything you claim.

DO THE 2 LASER CHALLENGE or else STFU because you and Nickerson know squat about this stuff and you are only doing the forum members a disservice.

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #94 on: December 12, 2019, 10:51:34 PM »
You guys are so full of spombleprofglidnoctobuns. You never look at the big picture. You always focus on one element that you think you can discredit without any justification. You have to use logic and critical thinking to resolve this. Not only was CE-399 in near-pristine condition after smashing thru bones, it had no DNA on it and it showed up on the wrong stretcher. Full stop. How much more evidence do you non-critical thinkers need to know CE-399 was...



And when are any of you cheap, lazy LNers going to post the results of my 2 laser challenge, which is the ONLY way you are going to PROVE that the Magic Bullet was possible. As a bonus you get the benefit of watching me eat crow, which is surely enough incentive for you to do the damn experiment.

It's pretty funny watching you try to rationalize how your internet graphics support that there was a valid trajectory from the 6th floor of the TSBD entering JFK's back at the T1 vertebrae then exiting thru JFK's throat (before tumbling into Connally) at the C7 vertebrae. None of your BS graphics have verified anything you claim.

DO THE 2 LASER CHALLENGE or else STFU because you and Nickerson know squat about this stuff and you are only doing the forum members a disservice.

"entering JFK's back at the T1 vertebrae then exiting thru JFK's throat (before tumbling into Connally) at the C7 vertebrae"

Is your head on backwards? :D



That's why you won't show us your pictures.

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #95 on: December 14, 2019, 01:09:31 AM »
"entering JFK's back at the T1 vertebrae then exiting thru JFK's throat (before tumbling into Connally) at the C7 vertebrae"

Is your head on backwards? :D



That's why you won't show us your pictures.

Go ahead and tell me that's "air" from the missile at T1. It won't change its location. :D

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