56 years later and still the WC apologists deny the conspiracy.

[Jerry Organ]

A lot can happen in 3.33 seconds.

You see a lot happening regarding the posture of Kennedy's trunk and shoulders?

There’s no obvious reason to think that the posture and positioning would be identical either.

Maybe in the latter frames, JFK is slouched forward a little more than he is in the Croft photo.

The “jacket bunch” is just a lame excuse to handwave away a too-low entrance wound.

The photos (those of sufficient quality) consistently show the jacket bunch. Willis 05 and Betzner--sometimes used to show no bunch--lack the resolution to show something as subtle as a jacket collar line; they just show the top of the jacket remained high. The bunch is more-readily seen in the Towner and Croft photos.

Something like this:

[John Iacoletti]

Willis 05 and Betzner--sometimes used to show no bunch--lack the resolution to show something as subtle as a jacket collar line;

That’s a convenient excuse to cherry-pick Croft.

The bunch is more-readily seen in the Towner and Croft photos.

We’ll have to disagree about Towner.

[Jerry Organ]

That’s a convenient excuse to cherry-pick Croft.

Willis 05 and Betzner simply do not have the resolution to depict the bottom edge of the jacket collar on the nape.



The photo above does. So we can't say Willis/Betzner shows the bunch gone and the jacket collar now visible. All I see is that the top of the jacket remained high. Which is consistent with the Croft photo having a bunch that obscures the jacket collar line from most angles. Possible there was some major wardrobe malfunction in the 1.3 sec between Croft and Betzner. A lot of things are possible. But some are more likely than others.

We’ll have to disagree about Towner.

Seems Towner shows jacket material at the nape behind the collar. As the right shoulder was elevated, the bunch probably got bigger as it went to the President's right.

[John Mytton]

A lot can happen in 3.33 seconds.

From Love Field through to Croft 120,000+ seconds later there is absolutely no evidence that Kennedy's jacket wasn't bunched but as a last desperate grasp of conspiracy you unrealistically rely on "A lot can happen in 3.33 seconds". Lame, very lame.





Here's the Zapruder film from Croft through to after JFK emerges from behind the sign and all JFK can be seen doing is lifting his right arm and waving.



JohnM

[John Iacoletti]

From Love Field through to Croft 120,000+ seconds later there is absolutely no evidence that Kennedy's jacket wasn't bunched but as a last desperate grasp of conspiracy you unrealistically rely on "A lot can happen in 3.33 seconds". Lame, very lame.

You know what’s a lame argument? The idea that “there’s no evidence the jacket wasn’t bunched” is somehow an argument for it actually being bunched at the time he was shot.

[Bill Chapman]

From Love Field through to Croft 120,000+ seconds later there is absolutely no evidence that Kennedy's jacket wasn't bunched but as a last desperate grasp of conspiracy you unrealistically rely on "A lot can happen in 3.33 seconds". Lame, very lame.





Here's the Zapruder film from Croft through to after JFK emerges from behind the sign and all JFK can be seen doing is lifting his right arm and waving.



JohnM

Not so fast, John

A lot can happen in 33.3 seconds
'The Picard Maneuver', for instance:

[Bill Chapman]

You know what’s a lame argument? The idea that “there’s no evidence the jacket wasn’t bunched” is somehow an argument for it actually being bunched at the time he was shot.

It could have been even MORE bunched at the time he was hit.. yes, a lot can happen in those 33.3 seconds

[John Iacoletti]

Not so fast, John

A lot can happen in 33.3 seconds
'The Picard Maneuver', for instance:

Has Chapman ever posted anything relevant?