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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #160 on: February 13, 2020, 02:20:18 PM »
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If you have 2 people in auto's behind the Rambler corroborating Roger Craig's account of Ozzie being picked up by an apparent accomplice, you can't patsy him as a LN assassin.


At 5:06 Curry says they have reports LHO was picked up by a Negro in a car.


LHO is arrested @ approximately 1:55pm.

He is searched @ 4:05pm and five live rounds of .38 calibre pistol shells are found in his left front pocket.

So apparently LHO wasn't searched for the first 2hrs. 10min. he was in custody?
 

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"At approximately 1:55pm Friday, November 22, 1963, I was in the vicinity

of the Texas Theater in the Oak Cliff section of Dallas, looking for the suspect

in the slaying of officer J.D. Tippit."

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"I joined the other officers in attempting to complete the arrest"

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"succeeded in subduing the suspect, and while the other officers held the suspect, Officer Ray Hawkins and I handcuffed the suspect."

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"At 4:05pm Sims, Boyd, and Det. M.C. Hall took Oswald down to the holdover in the jail

office for a show-up. Down in the hold over, Boyd searched Oswald and found

five live rounds of .38 calibre pistol shells in his left front pocket. Sims

found a bus transfer slip in Oswald's shirt pocket."
 
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That is a largely incoherent hodgepodge of nonsense.  Again, my point here is that even if you believe (as Walt apparently does) that Oswald got a ride with some conspirator to his boardinghouse that DOES NOT explain the need to fake his bus ride.  WHY?  Pay attention here:  the bus did not take him anywhere!  Thus, it is entirely pointless to have faked Oswald's presence on the bus.  I can't simplify it any further than that. This is not rocket science. 

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #161 on: February 13, 2020, 03:20:07 PM »
That is a largely incoherent hodgepodge of nonsense.  Again, my point here is that even if you believe (as Walt apparently does) that Oswald got a ride with some conspirator to his boardinghouse that DOES NOT explain the need to fake his bus ride.  WHY?  Pay attention here:  the bus did not take him anywhere!  Thus, it is entirely pointless to have faked Oswald's presence on the bus.  I can't simplify it any further than that. This is not rocket science.

if you believe (as Walt apparently does) that Oswald got a ride with some conspirator to his boardinghouse that DOES NOT explain the need to fake his bus ride.  WHY? 

Mr "Smith"...  Yer such a dumbass.....   I believe nothing of the kind....   I do believe that Roger Craig saw a young man climb into a light colored Rambler.....( He was probably one of the assassination team)  But I doubt that the man was Lee Oswald....BECAUSE ...Mrs Roberts said that Lee arrived at the rooming house at 1:00 pm . SO if Lee had been the man who climbed into the Rambler he would have arrived at the rooming house well before 1:00pm.  And Lee himself said that he got off a bus and caught a CITY CAB to the rooming house and his fare was 85 cents.   

BUT..... Lee was NOT in Whaley's Cab.... 

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #162 on: February 13, 2020, 03:30:01 PM »
if you believe (as Walt apparently does) that Oswald got a ride with some conspirator to his boardinghouse that DOES NOT explain the need to fake his bus ride.  WHY? 

Mr "Smith"...  Yer such a dumbass.....   I believe nothing of the kind....   I do believe that Roger Craig saw a young man climb into a light colored Rambler.....( He was probably one of the assassination team)  But I doubt that the man was Lee Oswald....BECAUSE ...Mrs Roberts said that Lee arrived at the rooming house at 1:00 pm . SO if Lee had been the man who climbed into the Rambler he would have arrived at the rooming house well before 1:00pm.  And Lee himself said that he got off a bus and caught a CITY CAB to the rooming house and his fare was 85 cents.   

BUT..... Lee was NOT in Whaley's Cab....

So Oswald was on the bus or not?

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #163 on: February 13, 2020, 04:09:03 PM »
So Oswald was on the bus or not?

Lee was on a bus.....At least he said he was, and I have no reason to doubt it.    Was it Mc Watter's bus??   The bus transfer would seem to indicate that it was Mc Watter's bus....But there is reason to doubt that the transfer is an authentic piece of evidence.   I simply cannot accept that the transfer was in his shirt pocket when he was dragged from the Theater.   But the bus issue isn't really vital .....  What does it prove??....  That Lee left the area of the TSBD where confusion, pandemonium and speculation reigned. ( nobody knew what the hell had happened at the time Lee left the area)


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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #164 on: February 13, 2020, 04:21:35 PM »
Oh if he was the expert hitman people think he was then he would have. Which is why killers shoot people in the head! Or the heart. Or both.

Who said that Jack Ruby was an "expert hitman"?

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #165 on: February 13, 2020, 04:26:01 PM »
That is a largely incoherent hodgepodge of nonsense.  Again, my point here is that even if you believe (as Walt apparently does) that Oswald got a ride with some conspirator to his boardinghouse that DOES NOT explain the need to fake his bus ride.  WHY?  Pay attention here:  the bus did not take him anywhere!  Thus, it is entirely pointless to have faked Oswald's presence on the bus.  I can't simplify it any further than that. This is not rocket science.

Without Bledsoe's manipulated identification of the shirt with the hole in the sleeve, you can't place Oswald in the arrest shirt at the time of the assassination and the similar fibers supposedly taken from the butt plate of the rifle supposedly found on the sixth floor take on even less importance than they already have.

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #166 on: February 13, 2020, 04:40:05 PM »
Without Bledsoe's manipulated identification of the shirt with the hole in the sleeve, you can't place Oswald in the arrest shirt at the time of the assassination and the similar fibers supposedly taken from the butt plate of the rifle supposedly found on the sixth floor take on even less importance than they already have.

And Bledsoe just happened to be the niece of Russell Douglas Matthews' aunt, Matthews mother's sister, but who is keeping score, anyway?



Ida Senter, listed under RD Matthews' aunt Adelaide Germany and her sister, Grace, who was Matthews' mother, was the grandmother of Matthews  and his first cousin, Jewell Germany. Jr., who was also Mary Bledsoe's first cousin, because Jewell Germany, Sr. was Mary Bledsoe's father's brother, AKA her uncle.



http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/FBI%20Records%20Files/62-117290/062-117290%20Volume%2024/62-117290P24b.pdf
Matthews 1975 FBI criminal record

Excerpt from "Crossfire" by the late Jim Marrs :



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 http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dallasmorningnews/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=165942208
Matthews, RD (Russell D.) 92, A WWII, 2nd Marine Division, veteran, who was awarded The Navy Cross and The Purple Heart. RD will be missed by his wife of 40 years, Linda, daughter, Peggy and grandsons.
Published in Dallas Morning News on July 21, 2013

https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/two-line-obituary-doesnt-do-justice-to-shadowy-r-d-matthews/
Two-line obituary doesn’t do justice to shadowy R.D. Matthews
By JOHN L. SMITH LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
July 23, 2013 – 5:10 am
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2000/oct/03/charges-leveled-in-stupak-incident/
Tuesday, Oct. 3, 2000 | 11:12 a.m.

Misdemeanor charges were expected to be filed today against an 80-year-old man who allegedly assaulted gambling figure Bob Stupak at an upscale restaurant in August.


Chief Deputy District Attorney David Barker said R.D. Matthews will be charged with battery, a misdemeanor punishable by up to six months in jail and a $1,000 fine.

According to police reports, Stupak, 58, was dining at Piero’s on Convention Center Drive Aug. 25 when Matthews grabbed Stupak by the arm and said he wanted to talk to him outside.

At the same time, Benny Binion Behnen, son of Horseshoe hotel-casino owner Becky Behnen, and an unnamed man reportedly began slapping Stupak about the head and face……

……Consider R.D. Matthews, who died recently at age 92, one of the most formidable apparitions from our gambling past. He was a ranking and respected member of what journalists once called the sporting crowd, which was a playful euphemism for the gamblers, hustlers, party girls and killers who lived by night on the edge of polite society.

Russell Douglas Matthews passed away in near anonymity — just a two-line obituary in a Dallas newspaper. It might have been the way he wanted it, but that quiet exit doesn’t do justice to the mystery that accompanied his long and reputedly violent life as a trusted friend of the late downtown casino legend Benny Binion. The fact you’ve never read much about Matthews in the local press makes a statement in itself.

He was born in Aspermont, Texas, on July 26, 1920. Matthews enlisted in the Marines after Pearl Harbor and was awarded a Navy Cross and Purple Heart. He is said to have inflicted more than his share of wounds in underworld wars after returning home. A member of the notorious Hollis de Lois Green gang of Texas, he was a Dallas bookmaker, nightclub manager and was known on the street as a stealthy enforcer.

Matthews was so well- acquainted with the inside players associated with the assassination of President John F. Kennedy that he rated mention in the Warren Commission Report and was interviewed at length in 1978 by the House Select Committee on Assassinations. (His attorney was Binion friend and future U.S. District Judge Harry Claiborne.)

Matthews intrigued investigators because of his intimate familiarity with the gambling underworld in Dallas, Las Vegas and Cuba, where he had lived for a time after the war. He also had a long friendship with Jack Ruby. But, then, Matthews knew most of the players in the Oswald-Ruby matrix.

Back in October 1963, Ruby placed a call to the Matthews home. A day later, according to one account, Ruby was in touch with Oswald. The connection has intrigued officials and fascinated assassination theorists for decades.

Not long after returning from the war, Matthews reacquainted himself with the Dallas underworld, where being an expert with a firearm guaranteed employment and respect. New Orleans prosecutor Jim Garrison once described Matthews as “a longtime heavy in the Southwest, having been linked with Benny “Cowboy” Binion, the Dallas racketeer now in Las Vegas.”

Officially, Matthews worked for Binion starting in the late 1970s, but multiple sources confirm they knew each other well decades earlier in Dallas, where Cowboy Benny was known as a rackets king and Matthews’ reputation for getting things done was well- established. Matthews, who wore an eye patch but never seemed to miss much around the Horseshoe, was considered a dear friend and protector of the Binion family.

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His street reputation was so well-known to the Las Vegas sporting crowd that a single slap from the then 80-year-old Matthews sent maverick casino man Bob Stupak into a panic. The incident occurred in August 2000 at Piero’s restaurant at a time Stupak was at odds with the new ownership of the Horseshoe led by Becky Binion Behnen.

No stranger to controversy during his extremely colorful career as the owner of Vegas World and big-idea man behind the Stratosphere tower, Stupak was so unnerved by the encounter with Matthews that he only stammered at my question and quickly declined comment.

R.D. Matthews was a ghost of Las Vegas past, but even as an octogenarian he was capable of stepping from the shadows and haunting the present.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/6382620

Grace Senter Freeman
BIRTH   3 Feb 1900
DEATH   28 Apr 2002 (aged 102)
BURIAL   
Sparkman Hillcrest Memorial Park
Dallas, Dallas County, Texas, USA

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/20316-rd-matthews-from-steve-thomas/

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A recently deceased friend, Dallas Attorney Spider Bynum lived across the street
from R.D. Matthews’ mother and more or less took care of her in her late years
and kept in touch with R.D. , always by telephone.  He flew into Dallas on a
private airplane at 2:10 a.m. the following day after his mother’s death, met
with the funeral director at Love Field, completed his business and flew back
to Las Vegas a few hours later.

Spider tried on many occasions to  ascertain what R.D. was so frightened of in
Dallas, but he refused to talk about it.  I do know Spider, who did a lot of
legal work for the Campisi family and offered to accompany Joe ( Joseph) Campisi
to Washington when he was called to test ify before the House Select Committee
on Assassinations .  Joe told him it was not necessary, but if R.D. Matthews was
called, he sure might need him and may never see Dallas again.

Spider swore to the day he died, R.D. Matthews was somehow involved in Kennedy’s
assassination, I guess we will never know now.
Funny how evil people live so damn long—————- “
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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #167 on: February 13, 2020, 05:19:43 PM »
Without Bledsoe's manipulated identification of the shirt with the hole in the sleeve, you can't place Oswald in the arrest shirt at the time of the assassination and the similar fibers supposedly taken from the butt plate of the rifle supposedly found on the sixth floor take on even less importance than they already have.

"Without Bledsoe's manipulated identification of the shirt with the hole in the sleeve, you can't place Oswald in the arrest shirt at the time of the assassination and the similar fibers supposedly taken from the butt plate of the rifle"

Yer absolutely right Mr I.....  Mrs Bledsoe was shown the shirt with the hole in the sleeve several days after 11/22/63.... When the FBI visited her at her home and asked her to identify the shirt.   At that time the FBI was caught in a conundrum...... they had identified the fibers from the butt of the carcano as having come from the shirt ( CE150) that Lee was wearing at the time of his arrest at the Theater.  BUT.... Lee was NOT wearing that shirt at the time of the coup d e'tat ...He was wearing a reddish colored shirt (CE 151) with a BUTTON DOWN COLLAR so if the tuft of fibers matched the arrest shirt they had to have been deposited on the butt of the rifle AFTER both the shirt and the rifle were in the hands of the police.

Thus the FBI were desperate to have the senile Mary Bledsoe positively identify the arrest shirt as the shirt that she saw Lee wearing on Mc Watter's bus.