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Offline Mike Orr

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #150 on: February 11, 2020, 02:29:18 AM »
People who did not follow the game plan would soon find out that they should tell the story that fit the script or they would possibly be lacking enough oxygen to maintain life . Look what they did to those who wanted to buck the system and tell what they actually saw . Domingo Benavides , Dallas Drs. and especially Roger Craig !

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #151 on: February 11, 2020, 04:19:42 AM »
Thanks for the wealth of information that poses many questions....
 Brewer [who seemed more concerned about the sneaker-in than anyone else] GOOD POINT!..... Why was Brewer so damned obsessed with the sneaker? We now know that He couldn't have known about the shooting of Tippit at that time.... So what the hell was he so concerned about?
One thing...Brewer did not submit an affidavit until two weeks after the event.
The cops had practically everybody else submitting affidavits that very day! Yet Brewer had a command position [supposedly] to ID a suspect right then and there at the theater. However, the cops made no attempt to further solicit his information at that time [apparently]
The Commission's chief bulldog [David Belin] seemed just chomping at the bit to interview this 'key' witness.
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Mr. BELIN - I want to take you back to November 22, 1963. This was the day that President Kennedy was assassinated. How did you find out about the assassination, Mr. Brewer?
Mr. BREWER - We were listening to a transistor radio there in the store, just listening to a regular radio program, and they broke in with the bulletin that the President had been shot. And from then, that is all there was. We listened to all of the events.
Mr. BELIN - Did you hear over the radio that the President had died?
Mr. BREWER - I heard a rumor. They said that----one of the Secret Service men said that the President had died, and said that was just a rumor.
Mr. BELIN - Do you remember hearing anything else over the radio concerning anything that happened that afternoon?
Mr. BREWER - Well, they kept reconstructing what had happened and what they had heard, and they talked about it in general. There wasn't too much to talk about. They didn't have all the facts, and just repeated them mostly. And they said a patrolman had been shot in Oak Cliff. 
I don't remember hearing any newscast about 'Secret Service rumors' :-\ Perhaps...but I doubt that anyone connected with the government inquiry reviewed the radio broadcasts concerning the policeman's shooting.
If I somehow fell asleep while listening or had an abundance of wax in my ears I want to know..If someone can locate when & where the announcement-of the patrolman's shooting-& or death- was made-prior to 1:45 please call this to our attention.
From Myer's book on the Tippit shooting: "The exact time that Brewer heard the radio broadcast on the shooting of Office Tippit is not known, although it was very likely broadcast at about 1:31 p.m. over KBOX radio. There were five major radio stations covering the Dallas area - WFAA (570 AM), WPBAP (820 AM), KRLD (1080 AM), KBOX (1480 AM) and KLIF (1190 AM). All of them routinely monitored the Dallas police radio. Again, you wrote that he stated in his affidavit/testimony about listening to KLIF. Where did he say this? I can't find it."
Again ...I did not write that :) Throw straw all over the place but you can't change the facts. The [pretty much] exact time was stated by Brewer---1:30--But that was still even before the announcement of the president's death.
Dale Myers did not have the recordings that we do now.
 You do the math..beginning at the link the time was 1:37 CST [the official announcement of JFK's passing]
At 0:40 there is a suspect in custody [not Oswald] then they report a Dallas [police] Detective DOA at Parkland Hospital [hardly a suggestion of Tippit in Oak Cliff is it?] By 15:00 he apparently became a Secret Service man.
Certainly there was confusion that day and police were swarming all over Jefferson Blvd but not before the announcement of President Kennedy's death. 
  

Offline Ted Shields

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #152 on: February 11, 2020, 09:28:37 AM »
I'm sorry Mr Sheilds.... But I don't believe Mrs Bledsoe was a rational witness.... I strongly suspect that she was suffering from Alzheimers ..... 

You're free to believe anything you want, but if you're honest with yourself and study Mrs Bledsoe....I'm sure that you'll find that she was rowing with only one oar in the water.

He had the bus transfer in his pocket. He was on the bus.

What was he doing on the bus 10 minutes after the president was shot outside of his building? Why didn't he wait around for his ride home with Frazier?

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #153 on: February 11, 2020, 01:42:57 PM »
Why didn't he wait around for his ride home with Frazier?

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #154 on: February 11, 2020, 02:25:59 PM »
He had the bus transfer in his pocket. He was on the bus.

What was he doing on the bus 10 minutes after the president was shot outside of his building? Why didn't he wait around for his ride home with Frazier?

I've never understood the CTer desire to cast doubt on Oswald's presence on the bus.  The bus went nowhere.  It accomplishes nothing in a conspiracy scenario to frame him.  It doesn't even explain how he gets to his boardinghouse since it doesn't take him there.  Imagine the conspirators creating a plan that involves faking Oswald's presence on a bus that goes nowhere, convince random folks on that bus (and which bus in Dallas do they select for this purpose?) of his presence or at least not to dispute he got on the bus.  All this for no apparent purpose since he has to get off the bus and then take a cab.  Wow.  What a plan.  Add a superfluous bus ride to the laundry list of random witnesses and events the conspirators have to conjure up to frame Oswald.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #155 on: February 11, 2020, 04:03:06 PM »
He had the bus transfer in his pocket. He was on the bus.

What was he doing on the bus 10 minutes after the president was shot outside of his building? Why didn't he wait around for his ride home with Frazier?

A bus transfer in pristine condition ( nor wrinkled or rumpled from being in the pocket of a shirt that was stretched and torn by the police when they dragged Lee from the theater )  is not very convincing evidence that Lee Oswald was aboard Mc Watter's bus.....  Mc Watter's himself said that he was mistaken about the identity of the young man who was on his bus.
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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #156 on: February 11, 2020, 04:07:23 PM »
A bus transfer in pristine condition ( nor wrinkled or rumpled from being in the pocket of a shirt that was stretched and torn by the police when they dragged Lee from the theater )  is not very convincing evidence that Lee Oswald was aboard Mc Watter's bus.....  Mc Watter's himself said that he was mistaken about the identity of the young man who was on his bus.

Explain to me the logic and benefit of faking that he was on the bus?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #157 on: February 11, 2020, 04:16:35 PM »
People who did not follow the game plan would soon find out that they should tell the story that fit the script or they would possibly be lacking enough oxygen to maintain life . Look what they did to those who wanted to buck the system and tell what they actually saw . Domingo Benavides , Dallas Drs. and especially Roger Craig !

Look what they did to those who wanted to buck the system and tell what they actually saw . Domingo Benavides , Dallas Drs. and especially Roger Craig !

You've overlooked the most graphic demonstration for those who had witnessed something that contradicted the official tale...  The lynching of Lee Oswald on live television, while in the "custody" of the the Dallas Police. That demonstration convinced many witnesses to keep their mouths shut.

 Howard Brennan saw the murder of a man (Lee Oswald) that he had told the police was NOT the 175 pound man who was dressed in light colored Khaki clothing that he had seen aiming a rifle out of a TSBD window.  When Brennan saw the murder of Lee Oswald on TV he knew that he had better not buck the authorities.

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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #158 on: February 11, 2020, 04:44:00 PM »
People who did not follow the game plan would soon find out that they should tell the story that fit the script or they would possibly be lacking enough oxygen to maintain life . Look what they did to those who wanted to buck the system and tell what they actually saw . Domingo Benavides , Dallas Drs. and especially Roger Craig !

Tell us why you enter a space between punctuation marks and the words they follow.
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Re: Back to the movies with Julia Postal
« Reply #159 on: February 11, 2020, 04:51:50 PM »
Explain to me the logic and benefit of faking that he was on the bus?

The plot that Lee was involved in used the same basic MO that he had used at Walker's house in April of 63.   The bullet through the window was intended to by graphic evidence that he had tried to kill Walker, although commonsense would tell any intelligent person that if he had intended to KILL walker he could very easily have done that by simply firing a couple more shots ( The liars have said that he fired three shots in six seconds during the ambush of JFK)   He had no intention of killing Walker.and the same is true of JFK.    He was involved in a hoax that was intended to make it appear that he had shot at JFK.     He was working with "FBI men"  who he trusted, but those "FBI men" were merely playing him for a sucker ( patsy)   

Back in the early 60's American Motors (AMC) had hugh contracts with the US Government to produce vehicles for the government.  AMC produced  thousands of  AMC Ramblers for ol Unca Sam.    They were all painted a light pastel green....   Those Ramblers went into government motor pools all over the world......Any US Government agency could use those cars.....   I believe that the light colored Rambler that Roger Craig saw pick up a young man who looked like Lee Oswald was probably on loan to the "FBI men" who were setting Lee up ........  Naturally Lee wouldn't want to spill the beans and announce that he was involved in a hoax, with some FBI men,  that was designed to get him welcomed to Castro's Cuba.  And It was an FBI Rambler that had picked him up  in front of the GK in Dealy Plaza.

 

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