Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?

[John Mytton]

     YOU said it took a "few minutes" for the JFK Motorcade to exit Dealey Plaza. If you are taking Back Water on that statement just say so. Stop flailing around like a fish out of water. You look like Unger on that rare occasion that he comes forward with a Sincere Opinion/Observation and then suffers getting slapped backed into line by the LN's back stage. In order to stand alone, Courage and Character are required.

YOU said it took a "few minutes" for the JFK Motorcade to exit Dealey Plaza.

Yes I did and I even I provided evidence of what was vehicles on Elm street supposedly @12:40, whereas you said their was a photographic/film record that could show what was happening a few minutes later but as usual your mouth exceeds your abilities.

If you are taking Back Water on that statement just say so.

Where's your evidence that you said you had?

Stop flailing around like a fish out of water

After the last sentence, another lazy "water" reference loses all impact.

You look like Unger

Thanks, I wish I had half his photographic knowledge.

In order to stand alone, Courage and Character are required.

I see, said the blind man.

JohnM

[John Mytton]

What part of the "parade" was still there at 1:33?

1:33?

JohnM

[John Mytton]

Are you calling any traffic that came down Elm street after the assassination part of the presidential parade?

How do you know what Oswald would interpret as a P.Parade?

JohnM

[Alan Ford]

It's very possible that Mr Lovelady never noticed Mr Oswald's presence during the shooting.

However!

It's very impossible that Mr Frazier did not notice Mr Oswald's presence during the shooting
---------------------> Mr Oswald was right in front of him!

Helps explain why researchers have had to contend over the years with what Mr Royell Storing calls "the ever changing story told by Buell Wesley Frazier"! 

[Alan Ford]

It's very possible that Mr Lovelady never noticed Mr Oswald's presence during the shooting.

In his HSCA interview Mr Lovelady was asked could Mr Oswald have been on those steps without his (Mr Lovelady's) noticing him. Mr Lovelady's response? "Could have."

I think that's what happened-------------and, because of the Altgens photograph, the chance close proximity of Messrs Lovelady and Oswald during the shooting was to follow Mr Lovelady around for the rest of his life.

[Alan Ford]

Now!

One of the most curious mini-episodes in this whole affair is this definitive statement in this 3/2/64 FBI report:



Mr Lovelady later denied having told the FBI this------------he just arrived for the photo session in any old shirt.



Unlikely! Would the FBI, with their sensitivity to the Altgens controversy, have been so casual as to drastically misunderstand Mr Lovelady-----or to fail to have communicated to Mr Lovelady beforehand that he was to wear his 11/22/63 shirt for the photographs?

Theory!

The FBI gave Mr Lovelady the short-sleeved shirt to wear* because they needed him in short sleeves
------------> because the Wiegman film showed Mr Oswald's exposed right arm (he had his sleeves rolled up**) appearing to come out of Mr Lovelady's body!

Then, as soon as the Wiegman frame was... 'enhanced' and evidence of Mr Oswald's presence blackened out, Mr Lovelady's red plaid shirt could come out of the closet!

* Side Bar!: Just wondering aloud... Did the FBI give the same shirt to Mr Eddie Piper for his photo?



** Mr Oswald in short sleeves would of course lend further support to the PrayerMan=LHO claim

 

[Walt Cakebread]

Now!

One of the most curious mind-episodes in this whole affair is this definitive statement in this 3/2/64 FBI report:



Mr Lovelady later denied having told the FBI this------------he just arrived for the photo session in any old shirt.



It's a shame that you're so recalcitrant Mr Ford....   You could be one of the best researchers of this case.....

Unlikely! Would the FBI, with their sensitivity to the Altgens controversy, have been so casual as to drastically misunderstand Mr Lovelady-----or to fail to have communicated to Mr Lovelady beforehand that he was to wear his 11/22/63 shirt for the photographs?

Theory!

The FBI gave Mr Lovelady the short-sleeved shirt to wear* because they needed him in short sleeves
------------> because the Wiegman film showed Mr Oswald's exposed right arm (he had his sleeves rolled up**) appearing to come out of Mr Lovelady's body!

Then, as soon as the Wiegman frame was... 'enhanced' and evidence of Mr Oswald's presence blackened out, Mr Lovelady's red plaid shirt could come out of the closet!

* Just wondering aloud... Did the FBI give the same shirt to Mr Eddie Piper for his photo?



** Mr Oswald in short sleeves would of course lend further support to the PrayerMan=LHO claim

 

[John Iacoletti]

How do you know what Oswald would interpret as a P.Parade?

Because in your narrative, Reid had already told Oswald that the president was shot. So he then decides to go outside and watch the P. Parade?