Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?

[Jerry Freeman]

"I would really really like GC to post the FIRST FIVE items on that cover-up list [page 1] if he will. Is there a document#?"

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Item #1..."Partially hidden"--so it could be found more easily I would guess. #2 "The cartridges were protected"? Really? I understand from previous posts [not really ever refuted by the ODIAs] that the shell cases had everybody's prints on them but Oswald's. #3... It seems like only Oswald's prints were ever searched for. #4..."A palm print and a partial print" --doesn't say whose
#5...The paper bag story---a desperately concocted fable.   

[Jerry Freeman]

 

#11...How convenient for those guys to find these ads that were months and months old and couldn't possibly be needed anymore. #12 & #13...Absolutely false! No mention was made of an ID until much later... long after Oswald was arrested. #14-#15-#16-#17 & #18 proved absolutely nothing.

One thing is obvious...This was all a table of contents for the Warren Report. Written [SERIOUSLY?] the very next day after the assassination. Merely agreed upon and rubber stamped by the JEHFBI and the Warren Commission.

[Zeon Mason]

The timeline was constructed by Belin because Mrs Reid had made an EARLY FBI statement of having seen Oswald enter the 2nd floor office.

Mrs Reid however had not given an actual time estimate herself, rather just a more vague "left immediately to return" to the TSBD right after Mr.Campbell had left her, and when she saw people "beginning to fall"

It probably rapidly became apparent to Belin that Mrs Reid, just as Dorothy Garner, could be a disaster for their theory that Oswald was the shooter, so Belin hid the memo about Garner and took control early on with Mrs Reid, not letting Mrs Reid do the timing, but himself in control of the stop watch, which he showed her at beginning and end. Mrs Reid saw, therefore 2 fixed times but for all she knew, it could have been a mere 60 seconds,not 2 minutes, since a stopwatch can be advanced a whole extra minute easily before its then shown again to Mrs Reid.

[Royell Storing]

I'm prepared to be corrected, where is your footage/photos which shows no traffic on Elm or Houston and which is timestamped a few minutes after the assassination? Thanks in advance.

Since you are a non image posting expert, how long after the assassination was the "accepted time line" of this piece of assassination film?



I didn't label the next image but if the time is accurate then it looks like what I said is a reasonable scenario.



JohnM

     YOU said it took a "few minutes" for the JFK Motorcade to exit Dealey Plaza. If you are taking Back Water on that statement just say so. Stop flailing around like a fish out of water. You look like Unger on that rare occasion that he comes forward with a Sincere Opinion/Observation and then suffers getting slapped backed into line by the LN's back stage. In order to stand alone, Courage and Character are required.

[Alan Ford]

[Zeon Mason]

Alan, which of the blob like element other than Lovelady do you now think might be Oswald on the front steps?

[Alan Ford]

Now!

Mr Oswald wanted to see JFK, but he didn't want to go out onto the steps and wait with all those co-workers there. He wasn't a mixer. Hated smalltalk. Wasn't much liked.

So he kept an ear and an eye out until it was obvious the motorcade was close to arriving, and then popped out.

It's very possible that Mr Lovelady never noticed Mr Oswald's presence during the shooting. However, he did notice the apparent altercation between Mr Oswald, Officer Baker and Mr Truly by the front door shortly afterwards.

Here's what Mr James Jarman told the HSCA on 9/25/77:

"There was a Billy Lovelady standing on the steps.... Oswald was coming out the door and Lovelady said the police had stopped Oswald and sent him back in the building.  Lovelady said that Mr. Truly told the policeman that Oswald was alright"

If Mr Lovelady had not noticed Mr Oswald's presence just behind him during the shooting----------



------------then it would explain why he misinterpreted the Baker-Oswald exchange as Mr Oswald being 'stopped' by the officer.

All Officer Baker wanted was someone to show him where the stairs were. Hence 'Do you work here?'

All of that later got transported up to the second-floor lunchroom and Mr Oswald's actual claims garbled beyond recognition.

Thankfully, though, this has turned up and it tells us what Mr Oswald really said!



 

[Alan Ford]

Alan, which of the blob like element other than Lovelady do you now think might be Oswald on the front steps?

Try reading my recent posts, Mr Mason!