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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2019, 10:22:52 PM »
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Hmmm... "30 years old, 5'9", 165 pounds, dark hair" doesn't sound right for "great big husky" Mr Dougherty (as Mr Truly described him), no matter what the lighting. But I wouldn't close off the possibility that Baker was persuaded to amend the details for his affidavit. This before seeing Mr Oswald marched into the office.

I believe the man that Baker saw on the  5th ?  floor was an employee....  What employee fit that description?   

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2019, 11:27:06 PM »

   All anyone has to do is look at the floor plan for the TSBD 2nd Floor. If Oswald had come Down that stairwell and then ducked into the vestibule, he would have utilized the Other Door inside that vestibule. That Other Door permits access to a hallway which leads to a Down stairway. That stairway empties within feet of the TSBD Front Door. Easy Peasy into the streetsy. 

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2019, 11:37:46 PM »
   All anyone has to do is look at the floor plan for the TSBD 2nd Floor. If Oswald had come Down that stairwell and then ducked into the vestibule, he would have utilized the Other Door inside that vestibule. That Other Door permits access to a hallway which leads to a Down stairway. That stairway empties within feet of the TSBD Front Door. Easy Peasy into the streetsy.

Good point, Royell....  Why the hell would a "fleeing assassin" corner himself by ducking into the lunchroom , when he had easy exit out of the building simply by taking the door into the second floor office area.

Lee was Not a fleeing assassin ....He was a chump who had been duped by conniving CIA type minds .  He had gone to the second floor lunchroom to get a Coke and that's where he was when JFK was ambushed.

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2019, 12:03:47 AM »
I believe the man that Baker saw on the  5th ?  floor was an employee....  What employee fit that description?

Mr Oswald came close enough--which was probably the point!

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2019, 02:39:13 AM »
Mr Oswald came close enough--which was probably the point!

We know it was not Lee Oswald.....  So WHO was it that Truly vouched for ?

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2019, 04:57:31 AM »
We know it was not Lee Oswald.....  So WHO was it that Truly vouched for ?

Julia Postal's boss. He was there to pick up Lee and drive him to the Theater but Baker held him up and Lee had to find his own way to the picture show, a little later. It's close to Halloween.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/59566461/john-august-callahan

The gaps in our awareness are routinely labeled "mysterious"....
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Bill Simpich - Posted October 23, 2019

.....It is intriguing to note that the news story reports that it was the mysterious manager John Callahan who turned the lights on and exposed LHO to the police.  Postal said that just as Oswald entered the building, Callahan came running out the other way, and "got in his car...to see where (the police) were going."  Another report says that the "manager on duty" had seen one man in the theater "since 12:05".  To my knowledge, Callahan was never questioned by anybody.
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http://files.usgwarchives.net/tx/tomgreen/obits/2001/051501.txt
  JOHN AUGUST CALLAHAN
   
   John  August  Callahan,  85, passed away Monday, May 14, 2001, after a
   brief  illness.  He was born in Palestine, Texas, on Sept. 6, 1915. He
   married Mildred Patrick, also of Palestine, on May 26, 1941. He served
   overseas  in the Signal Corps and in the Merchant Marines in World War
   II.
   
   He  began  his  long  employment with Rowley United Theatres, later to
   become  United  Artists,  in  Palestine.  He  was later transferred to
   Dallas  as  city  manager of the theaters there. While in Dallas, John
   was  an active member of the Knights of Columbus, Oak Cliff Lions Club
   and  the  Variety Club. He and his family moved to San Angelo in 1966,
   where  he  served  as city manager of United Artist Theatres until his
   retirement in 1980.
   
   He  was  a  Lions Club member for 55 years and a past president of the
   Downtown  Lions  Club  in San Angelo, as well as past exalted ruler of
   the  Benevolent  Order  of  Elks.  John  was  a  member of Holy Angels
   Catholic Church......
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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2019, 02:45:52 PM »
Right on, and earlier this year we saw this confused contribution by Mr. Scully addressing his pen pal Parnell as "just the facts" guy:

And from Mr. "Just the facts" himself, in case Mr. Scully's fading memory has failed to recall Parnell arriving at this "contribution":

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We're drifting away from the basic question asked in the title of this thread....    Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?

Clearly the answer is;   YES.....   Baker did not enter the investigation as a liar....   He was simply a patrolman trying to perform his duties.

But it wasn't long until he realized that his superiors ( those in control of his paycheck and career) wanted his cooperation in framing Lee Oswald. 

Baker was made aware that Lee Oswald was a dirty communist rat who had defected to Russia so he deserved being lynched....  or at least he most certainly was not deserving of  the iron  clad alibi that Baker could provide.   Baker knew very well that Lee was "DRINKING A COKE"  when he spotted him in the lunchroom, and he knew that that FACT provided the dirty commie rat with an iron clad alibi. Originally ( when he was an honest patrolman ) he said that he saw Lee "Drinking a coke " in the lunchroom .....  Later he lied and recanted his statement.

So Did Baker Lie?  There's no doubt about it....

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2019, 08:58:32 PM »

Baker was made aware that Lee Oswald was a dirty communist rat who had defected to Russia so he deserved being lynched.... 

Don't forget the Tippit murder!